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Originally posted by RobSch5
reply to post by dominicus
Well, Christianity is finally based on the belief that Christ died on the cross for the sins of all who accept him follow him, and on his resurrection.
Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling council. 2 He came to Jesus at night and said, “Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God. For no one could perform the signs you are doing if God were not with him.”
3 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.[a]” 4
“How can someone be born when they are old?” Nicodemus asked. “Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born!”
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. 6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You[c] must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.
This is something no mystic can experience, it is something he as a Christian just has to believe and this belief bounds him in a way mystics of other traditions are not bound. It limits the pure unknowing.
Have you heard of Shaktipat in eastern religions?
So, Dominicus, any updates??
Originally posted by dominicus
I've been to Eastern Orthodox Monasteries and have interviews with Monks on mp3 that speak of Enlightenment, The Inner light, leaving the body, and Union/Oneness amongst other things......can post if you like.
reply to post by dominicus
Is there a difference between belief & faith?
Faith, and the things that it can accomplish, seem to be a central theme in the bible.
One of the tenants of that Schism was: Catholicism said that you read the Bible and remain a Christian using only Logic and reason. E.O. said that you only use logic/reason for a short while, then once indwelled with the Holy Spirit, you are imbued with Higher Spiritual Faculties such as Transcendence, Non-Judgmental Love, Timelessness, Ego-Death, and direct experiences of God ...which give you a better understanding of the Bible than mere logic/reason (which is of Man).
I'd like to see some citation on this. Catholics preach a sanctification process based on faith in God's grace and partaking of the sacraments.
I also have trouble believing people were using words like "transcendence" and "ego death" in the year 1054.
We have our mystics too-have you heard of the Jesuits?