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Originally posted by TritonTaranis
Is it not possible Edward Snowden is a modern-day double agent, cleverly hiding his actions and painting himself as a victim of the U.S. government while working as an agent for the Chinese and Russians?
Is it no wonder certain government officials had publically called snowden a traitor? why? what do these officials know that we don't? people are ignoring this too...
All he was said to exposed was the "Potential" of these cyber programs, and that they could "potentially" be misused to spy on citizens, but there is absolutely no evidence of these programs being misused in this way, and FOR WHAT PURPOSE would they be?
What people are missing is the fact these CLAIMS that the public is being spied on are FALSE, pointless & impossible, the only truth is... that these NSA "national security" GCHQ programs "COULD POTENTIALLY" be "MISUSED" for spying & snooping directly on innocent US/UK citizens, but why?
that is an utterly stupid and pointless Idea, not to mention IMPOSSIBLE to achieve, the government would have to clone its population to spy on each other, and again for what purpose?
and these systems guard against hackers which are far more a plentiful than NSA & GCHQ workers let alone the other threats these programs deal with.. as i'm sure agency's like this are already over stretched with the task at hand... this is just common sense
The fact is the programs which could "potentially" be used to spy on you or i are advanced keyword loggers and if the systems suspects anyone using certain words or "code" which is suspected and decoded from other Intel programs, which alert the system, and then either a court order must be passed for the agency's to then monitor you directly for further investigation, and ONLY if you're found to be innocent/not a threat and a massive waste of time could you claim your privacy has be broken, the fact is these programs are well within the law and are no different to CREDIT CHECKS which you have from banks or credit loaners, hell i would love to go into a bank and not have my credit history pulled up and not refused a loan i had no intention of paying back, but just as these checks are important for the system, so are these programs for National Security
If you're not a threat to our socierty why you so worried about a computer storing information? that will never be read?, these programs are very much needed to protect our countries from homegrown threats, foreign terrorist cells operating within, foreign intelligence agency's operating within, drug cartels, and all the way down to benefit cheats and fraudsters etc, this alone is a massive job for these types of agency's
who are those external threats... China? Russia? its no secret the Chinese have been stealing technology and gathering Intel on many western countries, or weaken these defenses
What better distraction for an angry public and cause tensions within, and tensions with allies, than to use and exploit a confused young man to deliver secrets... its the perfect propaganda campaign... turn the public against there governments, make it harder to defend against homegrown threats,and gain vast mountains of information on systems they seek to infiltrate and bypass
Watch your streets become flooded with drugs, terrorist explosions & bomb threats, welfare cheats milking the system, and your military secrets and defense programs stolen again and again until your dealing with an invasion threat from the ever stronger Russian, Chinese, Iran, North Korea, Alliance
Well this is simply not true there is a limit on how long information is stored, and for many reason
And when we talk about a decade worth of an entire populations information this make it even more impossible for somebody to snoop directly
Firstly ask yourself why he would take it at all?
Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by TritonTaranis
It is quite possible that the United States of America is being ruled by a single person at the NSA right now.
why couldn't it happen? Better yet, why wouldn't it happen?