Why being Gay IS a Natural thing

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


Well the thing with Common Core Standards is that the Elites are trying to hide it from parents because they know they will object. Even the teachers are not handling most of the material. It is mostly tests which the teachers even do not see and do not grade. It is all done on computers(with Microsoft as the software of course, as good ol Bill spent 5 million dollars buying the PTA and the NGA).
But someone showed me some of the books used in sex ed in schools today.
Of course I cannot post pics in here or it would be deemed porn, but it apparently is ok to put in front of children.
Huffpo has pics from the German books which were deemed porno. POTUS talked about it during his campaigning so it's no accident it's now happening in our schools.

Here's PDF Of the standards but of course much of it is vague and for a reason, they know parents and even teachers will object.
www.futureofsexeducation.org...

I am not even singling out a specific type of sex here, many parents object to this stuff being put in front of kindergartners at all, but gay sex is also in there along with bestiality.

reply to post by Minus


It's OK to dislike what so ever you wish
I despise fish makes me puke, but I don't shout about it

If I had a prefabricated answer I would have posted it by now, you don't last on ATS for 8 years by trying to stitch members up or being dishonest.

If you want a prefabricated answer



Just kidding
Cody

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Minus

 

Maybe because you are tarring them all before even meeting them. You dislike all gays because of what they get up to in the bedroom nothing more.
If I said I dislike all Canadians I also would be in the wrong by lumping them all together and assuming I would not find any who I liked.

Maybe, and maybe if you read from page 1 youll find out that im more than just that

Originally posted by Minus
reply to post by C0bzz

 

well what a bunch of nonsense - most of it. thank you for sharing your view, but as long it not is okay to NOT like gays, its hard to get a discussion out of it.
Im not a hater, just a disliker so go hang me for that...

"Are you really naive enough to think that people would consciously choose to be gay? Why would anyone chose to be gay? What possible advantages does it have? Why would someone choose to be a social outcast? It's the way they are. "

Why do they keep telling "im gay and im proud"?

are you proud?

Pride is for everyone, it just so happens that we get discriminated, and discredited because of our sexuality, we get told we are 'unnatural' 'abominations' we get told why we shouldn't be allowed to marry, we get told by people who have not walked our shoes, who have not lived our life, that it was our 'choice'

so as i have stated, i will defend your beliefs, girl i will defend your right to have the freedoms to think of me what you will, and speak what you will,

though with that freedom, comes with our freedom to express and speak and believe what we want,

i am proud of surviving 18 years of atrocities at home, and almost two years left in the streets, i am proud of almost being 24 and surviving every day having a discriminative response to me

am i forcing you to to accept me?

Natural, Unnatural, we are Human

reply to post by cody599


Haha, nice picture

you don't last on ATS for 8 years by trying to stitch members up or being dishonest.

I dont consider myself to be in iether categori you mention above - and i dont even know if the world will last 8 years more hehe.

Im sorry if i offended you in any way

didnt read the "you have to sweettalk and kiss the minorities ass" rule, before i registred

reply to post by Darth_Prime


i am proud of surviving 18 years of atrocities at home, and almost two years left in the streets, i am proud of almost being 24 and surviving every day having a discriminative response to me

am i forcing you to to accept me?

As i said ealier - i know it can be hard to go through life as gay, i know gays are able to raise kids, are able to do alot of things. i dont hate gays.

I just dislike that gays are a part of the human existense - but im not the one that leaves a gay bleeding on the street to himself, or hunt down and kick ass gays and other nasty stuff.

If your gay, and knock on my door askin for help, i wont denie you that help because your gay, i will help you because your human. I dont expect you understand what im getting at.

why is it ok for you to be gay, but not ok for me to dislike it?

reply to post by Rocker2013


Of course, because there isn't any atheists who are against homosexuality.

Originally posted by Djayed
I feel as If ATS is overrun by 16 year old boys....these comments are rediculus....

Why? Because you're finding that all of ATS are not agreeing with you? Sucks to be on the defensive, huh?

You might not know it, but there is A LOT of irony in that. If ATS is any indication of polling the world.. you will see that there are not all that many people who will agree with you.. You said in an earlier post that "MOST" people defend homosexuality. Well.. here ya go. The numbers just dont add up.

Ya see.. As one of the responders said earlier... Those of us that are more conservative on the whole idea are cast out as biggots. That's calling the kettle black in my opinion. So now that gays have numbers on their side, it's not equallity... it becomes "In your face". I'm not saying you yourself are doing it, just like I am not condeming gays... I simply just dont agree with it. But.. somehow.. that makes me a bigot.

Though.. You can call me what you will, it doesnt change the smile on my face, and it certainly doesnt make me change my mind and my stance on the subject. I've given you many more examples of how it's not natural than the ones you have given me for your argument. When i show you proof, you thumb your nose at it and come up with some nonsense... bias nonsense. NY times is a lib paper. of course they'll post info for the point of carrying homosexuality. If you read my points, you would have no argument.

but.. I grow tired of this back and forth. You ask for proof but you dont want to acknowledge it. So you're set in your ways like I'm set in mine, but I at least have valid points to back up mine. So in all, this thread is pointless for anything other than petty arguing and mud slinging. You asked for people to see your point, and many dont agree so now you're just defensive. Hey.. I get it. but.. it is what it is. You started a thread about a controversy and thats exactly what you got.

enjoy

reply to post by Auricom

Originally posted by Auricom
reply to post by Rocker2013

 

Of course, because there isn't any atheists who are against homosexuality.

Your argument is illogical. It's a straw-man argument.

Whether or not there may be atheists who are approve or disapprove of homosexuality is irrelevant.

The point was, many species in nature engage in homosexual activity which mean it's natural, while only one species is worshiping a god in a the sky (the heavens). So, if we look at nature, humanity is the odd one.

Man + Woman = Baby that is Natural end of story.

reply to post by knightrider078

Originally posted by knightrider078
Man + Woman = Baby that is Natural end of story.

You make it sound like only sex that produces a baby is natural.

I guess infertile or old people sex is unnatural even if it is a man and a woman by your logic.

Animals such as dogs also go around humping people's legs... does that mean it should be socially acceptable for humans to do that too?

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by Camperguy
Ok let me spell it out for you, gays cant reproduce for a reason, biology. Hetros that cant medical. Now is there a supernatural force at work preventing either? dont know, but it is what it is.

Bill

Oh good, so at least we have moved you out of the camp that is saying "Mother Nature" or "God" must not "want" homosexuals to procreate.

That's a start.

Well call it like you see it but if it was meant to be it would be. Its pretty obvious that most religions are not supportive of it, why? And if you go the nature route why are there genders and why does it require a male and female? Can people of the same sex raise a child, sure ,we're a pretty adept race. Were we meant to, is my question.

Bill

reply to post by WP4YT

Originally posted by WP4YT
Animals such as dogs also go around humping people's legs... does that mean it should be socially acceptable for humans to do that too?

Irrelevant. A claim was made that homosexuality was not natural, and it was refuted by showing how some animals in nature also engage in homosexuality activity.

Now if you want to discuss the "morality" of homosexuality that is another topic.

Originally posted by Camperguy

Originally posted by MichaelPMaccabee

Originally posted by Camperguy
Ok let me spell it out for you, gays cant reproduce for a reason, biology. Hetros that cant medical. Now is there a supernatural force at work preventing either? dont know, but it is what it is.

Bill

Oh good, so at least we have moved you out of the camp that is saying "Mother Nature" or "God" must not "want" homosexuals to procreate.

That's a start.

Well call it like you see it but if it was meant to be it would be. Its pretty obvious that most religions are not supportive of it, why? And if you go the nature route why are there genders and why does it require a male and female? Can people of the same sex raise a child, sure ,we're a pretty adept race. Were we meant to, is my question.

Bill

Ancient Israel had 5 genders. They are a social construct, not a biological one. Let's keep this about biology, not sociology.

Were we meant to? Were we meant to fly through the sky in a metal tube going 500 miles an hour? What does that even mean, where we meant to? Do you mean, have we adapted the emotional capacity to overcome biological shortcomings in an attempt to create a fuller and more meaningful existence?

The answer to that is clearly yes.

Originally posted by Djayed

Originally posted by iLoGiCViZiOnS
I am very aware of how the homosexuals like to spend their time with all their various entertainments and I hardly consider THAT balance.

That is a very general statement, towards an entire group, which is just untrue. Making blanketed comments about all gays and their behavior is dangerous way of thinking....you have no idea how I live my life or the actions I take for entertainment...unless taking care of my dogs and watching tv is unbalanced.

I am not saying your a horrible person. I myself know lots of people that are homosexuals that are good people. However they are confused people and people that promote imbalance all over this earth. Maybe you should talk to your doctor and ask him if he thinks its a good idea that you let somebody stick you in the a$$ is a good idea and how that can affect your health personally now and in the future. I let Science, Facts and just good ole fashion Logic win those types of arguments all day!

reply to post by Jay-morris


EVERYTHING in this life is a CHOICE. If you believe any differently then your a fool and a slave to your own ignorance.

reply to post by iLoGiCViZiOnS


If someone punches you, is it your choice to feel the pain? If you eat something and you like the taste or dislike it, was that a choice or were you just responding to the taste which you may or may not like?