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Next week, when we celebrate Independence Day we’ll also be observing health independence,” Pelosi told reporters today. This week marks one year since the Supreme Court upheld the Affordable Care Act. It captures the spirit of our founders,” she added, citing the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence.”So, we’ve had Social Security, Medicare, and now health independence, so that’s something our members will take home to celebrate over this Independence Day.”
“If Paul Revere were here today, we would need someone like him to be running through the streets saying, ‘sequester is coming! This is very fundamentally important to the success of our country, to the survival of many here, to the strength of our military as well as to the success of our economy.”
Social Security, and Medicare?
Are DEPENDENCE programs the anti thesis of independence.
Yea, just don't say that to people who need those programs in order to survive.
Considering the SCOTUS that ruled the care act as a TAX see Boston Teaparty for what the founders thought of taxes.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
The Tea Party was the culmination of a resistance movement throughout British America against the Tea Act, which had been passed by the British Parliament in 1773. Colonists objected to the Tea Act because they believed that it violated their rights as Englishmen to "No taxation without representation," that is, be taxed only by their own elected representatives and not by a British parliament in which they were not represented. Protesters had successfully prevented the unloading of taxed tea in three other colonies, but in Boston, embattled Royal Governor Thomas Hutchinson refused to allow the tea to be returned to Britain.
The founding fathers were guess what?
ALL about FREEDOM FROM GOVERNMENT not making people dependent upon it for their existence.
The Government was given the power of taxation to fund itself NOT US so that general welfare was the power given to itself to function properly.
Now what are social programs?
Dependence programs that are a detriment to this people, and the functioning of the government.
Hence the complete opposite of the 'founders spirit'.
No, the founding fathers were all about the freedom from monarchy, not government, if they were all about freedom from government, they wouldn't have established one.
It's in the nation's best interest for the government to ensure the general welfare of the nation so that we don't have an episode like the French Revolution. You would tell the poor to eat cake.
To some maybe, to others it's a necessary thing to get ones self to a place they can be self sufficient, or in some cases just able to live.
But I suppose to you, those who are disabled or too old to work should just starve to death and die.
Which you have no idea of.
Originally posted by HauntWok
Social Security, and Medicare?
Are DEPENDENCE programs the anti thesis of independence.
Yea, just don't say that to people who need those programs in order to survive.
Or to the people who have worked all their lives, putting money into social security, and then (I know, outrageously) expect a payoff from their investment.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by neo96
This fourth I suppose we could celebrate our last 4th of July with health independence.
R.I.P.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by HauntWok
Yea, just don't say that to people who need those programs in order to survive.
Thank you for proving exactly how wrong Pelosi is as that is the epitome of DEPENDENCE.
AND
Considering the SCOTUS that ruled the care act as a TAX see Boston Teaparty for what the founders thought of taxes.edit on 28-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by neo96
This fourth I suppose we could celebrate our last 4th of July with health independence.
R.I.P.
I don't even celebrate the 4th what's the point really?
We just traded 1 tyrant 3000 miles away for 536 tyrant's on Capitol Hill.
That's an argument to abolish social security actually. In favor of people having the choice to invest their own hard earned money into a market with a reasonable rate of increase and return.
Didn't the admin argue for almost a year that the ACA was NOT a tax??
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by NOTurTypical
Didn't the admin argue for almost a year that the ACA was NOT a tax??
Yes they did just like they said Social Security, and Medicare are not 'taxes'.