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US Army bans soldiers from viewing The Guardian website

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posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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Seems like I saw a few powerpoints on there. If they're from a classified document, then it's easier to block Guardian for a bit.


Do you have link?




posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Kram09
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Seems like I saw a few powerpoints on there. If they're from a classified document, then it's easier to block Guardian for a bit.


Do you have link?


Not without rooting around. It was here on ATS when it hit, they had some ppts from the PRISM document that showed the various countries covered, there was some question as to why Germany was orange.

I'm at work, though, wouldn't look for it if it would pull up, which apparently it won't.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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I can only imagine the types of delusional thinking that a soldier in todays army has to force upon himself in order to avoid the inescapable ironies of supposedly "defending freedom," and yet not having the freedom to even read the news from whichever media source he/she chooses.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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This is the freedom the US army is tasked with bringing to the rest of the planet.
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Just what we've been bringing many areas of the world for quite some time; Free doom!
Stay in your house or hut, it comes to you all expenses spent



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by bigyin
This is the freedom the US army is tasked with bringing to the rest of the planet.


Navy as well. Since at least two weeks ago.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by BlindBastards
Western governments are a total disgrace. The lot of them should be thrown in jail. Never has there been such widespread corruption since the fall of Rome.


did Rome fall?

we are under roman maratime law and all courthouses feature
roman pillars.

we are part of their system by choice. unwittingly.

the contract is fraudulent, and always has been.

disown your strawman.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 06:32 PM
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No since the documents have been published they are public any rational about the remaining secrecy of the documents goes out of the window. The only remaining interest is in preserving unit cohesion and keeping people from having ideas of talking about something they shouldn't, even so as a general idea it makes no sense since part of it will be replicated by other media sources but it has a commulative effect, first wikileaks now the Guardian they are eroding free access to uncontrolled media. It is not by chance that the US military has their our tv programming and press...



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 07:10 PM
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Not surprising at all. Janet Napolitano has had web sites that show illegal aliens crossing into the US blocked on Homeland Security computers.
There are several of the sites, but one of the best is, or was, "borderinvasionpics.com"...



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 07:20 PM
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Standard procedure when classified documents are released to the public. Even though it is in the public domain, military members still have the "responsibility" of not viewing the material due to the nature of it's classification.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 07:46 PM
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At least the Army is blocking those sites.

By Regulations, if anyone views (on govt devices and govt NIPRNETS) classified material on a computer that isn't on the SIPRNET that computer is then quarantined and a checklist is ran. The user is then questioned. Makes for a long day for you and everyone in your chain of command.

In the AF, we were told not to view those sites on govt computers. Not sure if they are blocked - I don't like being detained.

Nothing to get all worked up over. Standard military procedure in place is all. They did the same with the wiki leaks stuff when it was the FOTM.

When the govt forces private ISP's to do the same, then you need to worry.
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posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 08:01 PM
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Understand this, Soldiers DO think for themselves. Soldiers are not mindless automatons. I still go to chilis after work, I still drink beer and get trashed, I still debate about politics and watch porn. Soldiers can do a lot of things AT HOME and OFF DUTY, the whole point of this thread, as stated numerous times by my brothers in arms is to show that soldiers have to follow certain protocols, we are not to view classified data, simple. Even if we did, what we are looking at is something that we can fully understand? what phase is it in? how is it implemented? a lot of people think just because they saw a movie and understand what a secret document entails is foolish at best.
Just because I don't have access to secret material doesn't mean my freedoms have been stripped, I just don't have the clearance for it, its "Need to Know", hence "Eyes Only".
What we see here is spillage, but not really because it was intentional.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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I am visitting that website. Who has right to forbid me?



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 09:50 PM
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Originally posted by casablanca887
I am visitting that website. Who has right to forbid me?


Well, if you are doing it from NIPRNET, DISA does.

If you're doing it from home, that's up to your ISP.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 10:02 PM
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It\'s because any serviceman how accesses classified documents without clearance is punishable.

They are just trying to uphold the rules without letting soldiers be unfairly punished for accidental reading



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 10:04 PM
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Eh, it's funny but not unexpected. The U.S. armed forces always follow the rules no matter how futile or completely against the spirit of the country they fight for.

I'm sure the smarter commanding officers know the pawns will look anyway, especially since they drew attention to it with the "forbidden" stamp. But they have to seem like they are enforcing the rules... silly but biz as usual for any armed forces, actually.



posted on Jun, 28 2013 @ 10:12 PM
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This I find to be total bs! MSM sucks for us but at least we have the internet, poor army =(.



posted on Jun, 29 2013 @ 02:29 AM
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Originally posted by Baddogma
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Eh, it's funny but not unexpected. The U.S. armed forces always follow the rules no matter how futile or completely against the spirit of the country they fight for.

I'm sure the smarter commanding officers know the pawns will look anyway, especially since they drew attention to it with the "forbidden" stamp. But they have to seem like they are enforcing the rules... silly but biz as usual for any armed forces, actually.


Spoken like a true noner. You have obviously never been in management, if so, you aren't good at it.

Those commanding officers have to obey the same rules. If not, an enlisted E4 will pay them a visit and detain them. Has nothing to do with rank, but with integrity. Break the established rules and you'll pay the price. I was briefed by an E3 not to visit those sites. That same E3 briefed O4s and above. Those rules have been in place since my father served.

Something you probably have no clue about. Don't stop believing.



posted on Jun, 29 2013 @ 02:47 AM
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Glenn Greenwald just said he considers this an honour even above winning a Pulitzer prize
It means he's doing his job.



posted on Jun, 29 2013 @ 03:49 AM
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Cannt see this on CNN but then again can't see it the BBC - typical!



posted on Jun, 29 2013 @ 05:05 AM
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Guardian

I think you are referring to this.

It's a single screenshot of a map from a document, it's not an actual powerpoint as you claim. You can't actually access any documents.

Yes the screenshot is from a classified document, I'll grant you that. However without the full document or any context the screenshot effectively means nothing. All it shows is all the countries of the world colour coded as to how much the U.S. spies on them. I'd think it's out in the open now anyway, so blocking this site is akin to closing the barn door after the horse has bolted.

I do not believe they should be blocking it nor there stated reasons for doing it - network hygiene - whatever that Orwellian speak means....



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