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Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup
Who are you visiting on these visits?
Who's at the top of the hierarchy that you've witnessed?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup
I've been reading up on this place and I'm a little concerned about it.
Your story sounds a lot like the beginning of BornofSin's story on all of the torment followed up by this mystical experience that I'm afraid might be led by angels run amok and gone astray.
That's why I'm wondering who and what is on each level.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup
How do you know it's not the same fallen angels who are also introducing you to this "heaven" you've experienced in an effort to deceive you?
What are you being told in this place?
what evil should you fear if you do believe in God and live in Righteousness or strive towards it? will he not protect you?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by filledcup
what evil should you fear if you do believe in God and live in Righteousness or strive towards it? will he not protect you?
I don't fear the evil, I just choose to obey God when he said not to indulge and practice in such things. I don't want to be sucked into a false delusion for having disobeyed.
I would much rather hear your experiences.
many are also false having not truly attained the light and the water. but that's our world huh? the pretenders made it harder for everyone else including their own future children in their bloodline to be deceived by their falsely backed teachings and interpretations. Many on this site as well come forward, but you all dont hear them and dismiss them, so how do you know which ones were true and which were false.
He was seeking to bring it about. The kingdom wasn't fully inaugurated until after he died, so he wasn't exactly living the kingdom life before that.
Except Jesus didn't tell us to seek the kingdom of heaven in this life . . .
Jesus never meant that was only a temporary situation (as if it was serving as a kind of stopgap). That is the very nature of the kingdom, the indwelling of God's spirit in us.
Jesus told us that the kingdom of heaven was only within us (in the form of the Holy Spirit) until he came back to set up his new kingdom.
Jesus was preparing a situation to replace the Lord's house being a single building on a hill, to where it is in each of us, where Jesus can commune with us in the spirit. He never said that he was taking anyone to heaven, and on the contrary, he said where I go, you cannot follow.
Remember, he said that he was going to prepare a place for us where we could all live together permanently. This earth doesn't allow that.
It says your treasures are stored in heaven, where at some point they can be released to be showered upon you.
Don't store up treasures on earth because our rewards will be in heaven, just like Matthew 6:19-21 says.
Jesus did tell us to seek the kingdom in this life. The "Kingdom of Heaven" was another way of saying the kingdom of God. It does not mean that it is a kingdom in heaven.
Right, and that was true in the time of the Apostles, that a future judgment was coming.
The Kingdom leads to a new heaven/earth after the current ones pass away.