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Actually if a Government acts in a Treasonous way it can be removed. Same with the Monarch.
But handing the country over to the USSR would in my opinion be treasonous.
Does not matter what the public wants in that regard as it would have been harmful in the long term.
Normaly no the military, police and secrurity service should not interfere and let the public make it own mistakes.
But when those mistake involve extremes like full on Communism, Fascism,
Religious extemism or deep rooted corruption then yes I think the goverment should be forceible remove and new election with freesh canidates be done.
some times the public can be stupid and reasonble limits should be placed or you could end up with a another NAZI Germany or Stalinist Russia on your hands.
Originally posted by Freeborn
If a government had gone 'full on red' as a result of the electorate's wishes then no-one should have the right to replace that governement other than the electorate themselve's.
Originally posted by TrueBrit
No matter wether your politics are right or left, blue or red, democracy trumps your opinion, and its operation is not subject to debate. It will be as the people say it shall be, or there will be blood, thunder, death , mayhem, and there shall be nothing worth the having at the end.
But you're making this assessment on the principle that we have a democratic process.
We are no longer in control of our governments, instead we are given the impression of a democratic government, but one that is controlled by a cabal of military, intelligence and commercial interests.
If all of this was possible back then, just imagine what's going on behind the curtain right now.
Originally posted by crazyewok
Even if the Public opinion was to hand the country over to the USSR? If they had we would have been dragged down with them when the fell not to mention the human rights abuses it would have entailed.
Was it right to let the German public choose Hitler? Was it right to let the Russian public continue to support Stalin? If the German or Russian Millitary have decided no we would not have had world war 2 and some of the worst atrocitys in History.
Freedom to choose is good. Unless emotions get the better of the public and they try and drag the country into extremes be it fasicm, full on communism or some other evil direction.
Now I dont think Mountbatten and those who made up what was hopefully going to be a transitional goverment while new candiates were formed and new electrion taken place were much better than the sad lot we have now. But if push came to shove its far better than if the Goverment had gone full communist and handed the Country over to the warsaw pact.
Luckly the Goverment didnt go full Commie and the army didnt have to come in. The fact they didnt showed that it was a heavly descions and something that really was a last resort.
Now suprisingly Im a socailist at heart but even I would not have wanted full blown commuinism in the UK just because people at the time were being lead by emotion and desperation.
Think of it this way. What if 10 years for now the BNP get into power and start going full Hitler on us? Should the army and security foces remove them? Or should they just let it all happen as we picked them?
At the end of the day it a extremy difficult decision one that should not be taken lightly. And im glad things did not get to a point were it did happen.
edit on 27-6-2013 by crazyewok because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TrueBrit
reply to post by crazyewok
And I would agree with you. However, that is not a choice which either of us have the moral or legal authority to make. Democracy means nothing , absolutely nothing, unless the will of the people dictates the fate of the nation as a whole. The big financial problems our nation faces today, and the political response to it, which has been to close ranks against the public will, and crush the people with cut after cut, is evidence that the moment any individual begins to take it upon themselves to decide something on behalf of the common good, that runs counter to public will, there will be problems.
Now, today, we stare down the barrel of a future which contains the effect of successive governments ignoring the will of the people, rather than bowing to it and doing thier damned jobs, as servants of the people, which it is thier place and duty to do. We have never, in this country, suffered an abundance of loyal politicians, prepared to do as they are bid by the majority on every subject, and things will not improve for the majority until we DO have a representative government, who would rather cut thier own throats than make lives difficult for pensioners, who would rather loose a limb than destabilise people on benifits (the vast majority of whom are not cheating the DWP). And yet, that is the precise opposite of the current political spectrum.
Surely you can see that there are similar issues affecting both of these scenarios? The people being removed from having access to power on thier own behalf, is never going to be acceptable, no matter how potentially terrifying the results of thier whims.