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Originally posted by whyamIhere
Looks like you will be having a lot more fun than us...
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
reply to post by Druscilla
i will not have my rights relegated by asking permission first. i want people to realize that every day is open carry day, or concealed carry day, or bear arms in public day, not just one day of the year.
people need to truly realize that they shouldn't fear a gun more than the person carrying it. a person walking on public property doesn't turn heads, yet if they're openly displaying a firearm people perceive a threat. why?
this silly fear over those carrying guns is disturbing and dangerous.
children should be taught at an early age to respect guns, and that carrying one is to carry extra responsibility. they should not be taught that a citizen carrying a gun is any more dangerous than a citizen who isn't.
See what I did there? Perspective.
Originally posted by Bob Sholtz
what would you call mandatory notification? i'd call it asking for permission. you will make the claim that it is not mandatory, but then why suggest it be done? i remember a time when protests could legally be held without giving "notification" first, but now one must stay within ze designated areas.
does one have to say "let everyone be aware that i am notifying everyone within hearing distance of my intent to use the first amendment"? no, it would be ludicrous.
would you rather have a society where there was no example of how to responsibly carry a gun, or a society where children and curious adults were shown what it looks like to be a responsible gun owner?
no. i truly don't see what you were going for. you've substituted one term for an equal term. i never spoke of martyrdom, nor did i hint at it.
... you are attempting to set up a strawman so that you can kill it and look like the victor. you wish to set up gun owners as inherently irresponsible for defending a right that everyone has, for defending all rights that we enjoy.
Protests are fine, any time, anywhere, all the time, I suppose is how you'd prefer such. Freedom of assembly and all, right?
I'm sure you'd feel really comfortable with non-convicted child molesters following around your family broadcasting what kind of speculative fantasies they have about your children.
I'd actually prefer a society where no one ever felt the need or desire to own a gun, except, perhaps for sport shooting, hunting, or protection from large predators during deep wilderness excursions.
I think even voiced something along the lines of dying to fight for their right to bear arms, so, I thought the martyrdom/jihad aspect might shed an interesting perspective.
My points are all about responsibility, not only for yourself, but for others as well. Further, while Open Carry may be legal in your area, it's abnormal behavior to run around with a weapon in civilized society.
We have certain inalienable rights, sure, but, there's such a thing as abuse, and such a thing as having something and not needing it, and there's such a thing as socially acceptable behavior regardless of legality.
I own a gun, yet have no need, desire, or requirement to carry it around in civilized public. Why would anyone else?
Some people seem to view life as one big warzone. It's funny how it isn't.
if there is no danger, what is the harm in carrying a gun?
Which is how I imagine most gun nuts
this is the problem right here. if your assumption was true, there wouldn't be any gun nuts left because they would have killed themselves in their stupidity, or, failing that, they would wipe out all the unarmed anti-gun people because people who own and carry guns are violent. yet neither of these situations has occurred.
So, I wonder, how many people have shot themselves without a gun? The same question goes, how many people do you think have shot another person without a gun?