The Issue of Misandry – 21st Century Social Conspiracy

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posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by JiggyPotamus

Have you noticed that when something happens that men would simply shrug off, there will be some woman out there who MUST make a big deal about it. Always. And this is exactly why masculinity has disappeared to a great degree in our society. I really enjoyed reading your post, and it is in line with what I myself believe. I even learned a great deal. Good job.


If women never complained about anything we'd still be living in the dark ages.

Admit it, the female sex is the foot in your average males arse, without which, where would we be? Its Team work to a certain degree




posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 11:56 AM
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Misandry is alive and well I'm afraid.
I've had to call out several woman out on facebook for it.
They typically run and hide when I rationally tell them how they are wrong for bashing men.

And I've always felt that Feminism has gone the wrong way. Feminism can truly be a great thing if it actually focused on helping women do better.
But usually it just ends up going into man bashing.

If Feminists actually focused solely on helping women be leaders instead of victims the world would be a better place indeed.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 12:08 PM
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Very well written and insightful thread!

I always like to see people question things and then seek to balance an unbalanced force.

I have a question about the Twilight Girls meme pic.
Are those actually adults at a Twilight film getting all into it?
Say it isn't so.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 12:11 PM
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We need "Humanism" whereby all men and women are treated as HUMAN BEINGS with 100% full human rights.

Races, sexes, cultures, ethnicity, all of these are illusions folks.

We all be humans. Every last person.
Treat them as you would like to be treated.
Seems simple but it has to be repeated ad infinitum.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash
We need "Humanism" whereby all men and women are treated as HUMAN BEINGS with 100% full human rights.

Races, sexes, cultures, ethnicity, all of these are illusions folks.

We all be humans. Every last person.
Treat them as you would like to be treated.
Seems simple but it has to be repeated ad infinitum.


reply to post by muzzleflash
 


I agree, and in a perfect world, that is precisely how it would be; but in the world we have to actually live in, it just doesn't (and won't) work that way.

Society has, for quite a few years (decades) been waging a very real and deeply rooted effort to endlessly empower women, while simultaneously molding men to be, at best, generic figure heads; and at worst, weak, spineless, dysfunctional, incompetent idiots. It is absolutely surreal to think of how so many people are blissfully unaware of this, and of those who do take notice, most opt to turn a blind eye and deaf ear to the truth.

It is such a taboo subject to even bring up that most people who recognize the problem feel that it's too volatile a topic to even try and talk about at any length. It's semi-comparable to the subject of male victims of domestic violence in that people just don't want to hear about it or discuss it. People are uncomfortable to stray too far from those firmly entrenched stereotypes that mass media has exhausted itself to make us all feel "comfortable" accepting. God forbid anyone make waves by challenging widely accepted modes of thought...

The fact that it took the OP more than eight months of thinking about this thread to finally go ahead and make it, speaks volumes.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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I am a supporter of human dignity and human rights; and a keen observer of the misery extant across 2/3'rds of the globe; misery which we Americans do not fully witness - cocooned by our institutions.

A key element in the rise of violence on this planet - interestingly stems socially from the abusive and subservient role which is placed on the shoulders of our sisters, mothers and daughters. It produces - and I won't go into the specifics as to why here - it produces male anger and violence. Terror. And the cycle then also repeats as well.

But I will relate one interesting aspect of my career which did involve misandry (my spell checker btw recognizes misogyny but does not recognize masandry
) and a philosophy of hate run amok in the other direction. I joined a research council early in my career, being brought in to help bolster the technical strength of the team with regard to their particular area of focus.

- I was the only one who had a career in the research field in question
- I had 6 years of experience in the field compared to their average 1 year
- I held graduate degrees in the field, versus their holding no degrees in the field whatsoever
- My undergraduate and graduate degrees were from the top schools in these fields (#1, #3)
- I was the top graduate of my class
- I had published significantly in the field
- I had led a corporate group in that field which had made very well known and groundbreaking successes in the very research we were focusing upon
- I was hired 3 months after my peers were hired
- I landed a $6 million contract to perform research in that field and doubled the research council's revenue base.
- I was a leader and had the respect of 90% of the council tenures, with many requesting to work under my projects.

I was refused the single promotion allocated to our group, in lieu of a female with none of the above qualifications, and just 1 year experience out of a small college in Ohio. Her CV's highlight was that she was president of her sorority. The reason was expressed to me as being "we are attempting to be proactive to promote females into the field and she has 3 months more time here than you do"
3 months seniority and president of her sorority. I had to give it to them, it was poetic if nothing else.


But it was gender hatred. It was failure in a prescription. It was wrong.

I expressed to the Partner in charge at the time that "I was very pro female, and an advocate of human rights. However, I am not an advocate of institutionalized failure through gender or racial hatred. If you do not promote me, I will sue you for discrimination and seek career damages, since I left a lucrative career to come HERE......for a startup research initiative - at your request."

The promotion was shifted to me.

She still hates me to this day.

Sometimes, you cannot manage the world solely by allegiances to skin color or what resides between your legs. We all have to be bigger than this.



edit on 27-6-2013 by TheEthicalSkeptic because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:13 PM
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Good job 10th for bringing this subject, i can go crazy on this subject but i respect ATS so i withhold information that i would normally post on 4chan(cause it will clearly get me banned and or hated).

If things go in the same phase as they are now, talking about men rights or misandry will become a Taboo and no one will speak.

I do see a new version on men growing up...


What some women want is another version of them with a different genitals.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:19 PM
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You must be deluded if you think 100% female behind the original feminist movement, there were MANY males that supported the movement.

Stop gloating, only reason female have right is because males decided to withdraw and give fair chance. You act like you went head to head with males and won, i guess that how any feminist would think anyway.

You think females would rights if males were 100% against it?

just think for a second.


Real feminist movement women appreciated what they received, the modern feminist just whine like B**es and set the balance off. Only because modern males are conditioned to NOT speak back.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:21 PM
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I'm gonna back you up here.

The women's rights movement was hijacked by globalists who realized they could convince women to work as much as men did, and cut wages across the board by 50%. They destroyed the 1 working adult family unit on purpose and they used feminism to help.

~Tenth



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower


I want you to read this and not get angry, not get lost in the rhetoric of us vs them. I want you to read this and really think about it and ask yourself an important question:

Are men discriminated against for being men and is there a huge disconnect between that problem and the conversation being had within our media and politics about it?

What say you ATS?

~Tenth


Yes.

Because the old Guard wants to keep the status Quo when it comes to their version of "rights for all'. There is big money changing hands daily. My example is Child support, and Custody. Totally gender biased. I would go into details, but I have to go to work.

Great thread, I'm surprised I missed this.


S&F



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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Jesus do I even want to touch this today??? Sigh,

here we go again, or like Charlie Brown would say, Good Grief.

OK, As most of you Probably know by now I am a Very UNAPOLOGETIC RADICAL REVOLUTIONARY WOMAN VAGINA WOMB CENTERED FEMINIST!

And I LOUDLY DECLARE the whole MISANDRY CLAIM is unadulterated BULLKAKI.

Used by Misogynist men AND misogynist Stockholm females OR the dumb Fun feminist JUDAS Bimbo Cheerleading types, which I have not a problem saying,

I LOATHE THEM FAR MORE than THE MISOGYNIST MEN, because simply, THEY ARE THE WORST TRAITORS. They are the Kind of women that will Let their husbands and boyfriends RAPE THEIR OWN DAUGHTERS then Blame their daughters for being molested and destroyed. because these Types are ATTENTION

WHORES.

OK ALL THAT BEING SAID.....

Take a deep breathe now cuzz I Know you misogynist wife beaters out there are fuming and you dumbed down female sell outs are seething...and to be truthful, I don't give a damn. I DO CARE about the MILLIONS of DESTROYED FEMALE SOULS that YOUR KIND produce. So for Them, I will speak.

Let's begin with OPs first about the media, etc. On THAT POINT, YOU ARE CORRECT. There IS yes, an agenda to dumb down men, HOWEVER, go back and re watch those movies and media depictions, they ALSO Over Sexualize women and children, as well as Dumb then down. There IS a Masculinizing females on the whole media, but if you pay closer attention, it's not the Feminine via nature, Mother role that is Empowered, Hardly, it's the WHORE IMAGE that is empowered while depicting the men as dumb down sex craved idiots. Seriously just talking TV now, excluding reality shows. And I'm going to get into the Why here in bit, but shows like Kings and Queens and Raymond, two I can think of, sorry I didn't watch a lot of TV but what I do Remember, and from what I hear from others, etc., the Women are masculized WHICH, BTW IS A FORM OF MISOGYNY, because Feminine values, such as Nurture, Gentleness, Kindness, etc are NOT VALUED, but Aggression (not assertiveness but aggression), Bullying, Physical Strength, MARTYRDOM type of crap, aka the SUPERWOMAN, all of that, is a form of MYSOGYNY while Applauding the Weak AMORAL MALE,

Who has entitlement baby issues. co dependent issues, mommy issues, etc, which IS a form of emasculinization. Programming men or conditioning men to be over sexed perpetual teen retards and conditioning Females to be perpetuating Children who have sex, what I term as the Pedophile fantasies while being the perpetuating ENABLING MOMMY TO MAN MARTYR. But in a SUPER WOMAN kind of way...

But let's not stop there, let's look at the Other conditioning, Kids depicted with Only Fathers who they can Push around OR the WHORE LOOSE MOMMY to busy with not career but looking for the Fantasy Father Bride, that PEDO wank fantasy crap, BDSM psychology While spewing the whole Superwoman career garbage...

So YES, it's Misandry BUT with the UNDERCURRENT of a MAINTAINED MISOGYNIST PATRIARCHAL CONDITIONING

AKA DE GENDERING.

And THAT, is the MARXIST FASCIST STALINIST TYPE OF AGENDA, right there.

It is in No way PRO FEMALE, hardly. It is however, Pro ERASURE of Any thing Remotely feminine as Mothering, Protective (why it's pedophia backed because they want to REMOVE ALL NATURAL AFFECTION TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM SERPENT PREDATORS...in other words they HATE MOTHERS WHO LOVE CHILDREN.).

And MISOGYNY plays Right into their ball court. The BEST FRIEND to the Hater of CHILDREN and MORALS is in fact your PATRIARCH MISOGYNIST.

By Removing the FEMININE PROTECTOR they then have Total access to Small children to rape and maul. FACT.

This is both Spiritual as well as even political.

Basically it's the Hijacking of feminism, including even the radical (though there are a small sect if radical feminists who are Well aware of these facts) by degendering MISOGYNIST groups or better, AGENDAS,

This, THIS is where you get into the whole what I term as BORG world, No compassion, No empathy, no love,

Only Asthetics, Elitism, Perfectionism, Coldness, Plastic, NO GENDER. And Children are mere fodder to be used as Borg creates or play things to death. THIS IS THE WORLD they want.

IF you want to understand more about the Real culprits behind all this evil, read Dialectics of Sex by Shalasmith Firestone...she basically said,

Children should be molested as much as they can handle, machine wombs would have children (her reasoning was to free women from the horrors of childbirth, yada yada) and that this Utopian Orgy world would surface.

See MANY, NOT ALL BUT MANY MEN are sex ruled, without Morality restraints, many, not all but many would rape infants, even their own, IF there was no protection of infants, etc. Talking here about the most Debased of nature, the Agenda of these sex starved porn types, is the absolute removal of Anything CONSCIOUS or that would say, you need CONSENT. These types don't give a damn about consent, ONLY THEIR LUSTS,

Continued
edit on 27-6-2013 by ThreeBears because: Corrections cuzz iPad keyboards suck



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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You do realize.. females can be pedophiles right...? or is the feminist in you blocking that out?


Females can be pedophile at the equal ratio as males. One sex is better at hiding their nasty ways.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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You do realize.. females can be pedophiles right...? or is the feminist in you blocking that out?


Females can be pedophile at the equal ratio as males. One sex is better at hiding their nasty ways.


yea I was Getting to that...why it says Continued..lol



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:07 PM
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OK Continued from where I left off...btw not articulated WITH all the research I have, but oh we'll...

Let's take it from here...

See MANY, NOT ALL BUT MANY MEN are sex ruled, without Morality restraints, many, not all but many would rape infants, even their own, IF there was no protection of infants, etc. Talking here about the most Debased of nature, the Agenda of these sex starved porn types, is the absolute removal of Anything CONSCIOUS or that would say, you need CONSENT. These types don't give a damn about consent, ONLY THEIR LUSTS,

OK now, This isn't just, Just about MEN, Women also Being sexual creatures, as well as Mothers, or WOMBS, why I say I'm Vagina/Womb centered, Usually have a Protective by NATURE INSTINCT...which I will say,

Has been erased BY PATRIARCHY-MISOGYNY for billions of years. Proof of this, is look at the ancients, Women prior to Patriarchal Structures Would KILL to protect children, in Mother leaning tribes, and by that, I'm referring to Matri Linear, not matriarchy, but Matri linear. There is a huge difference there...

And Due to that, the female has Morphed more and more into a Masculinized thinking, by that I mean, an Internalized HATRED of anything INSTINCTUALLY FEMININE,

Not talking here about the Patriarchal bimbo sex doll feminine that is a Construct, but the True FEMININE which is POWERFUL as IT'S A LIFE FORCE PROTECTOR.

Over time that powere has been erased by demonization, lies and females surrendering, etc. also by rape, colonization and erasure of ancient knowledge. Not only that, with the Replacement t of Natural Affection with Materialism, females have morphed into masculized Anti protesters or DESTROYERS themselves,

especially those who SEEK POWER. OR who are in the CLASS OF POWER.

And it is Here that YES, Females can be even more so, Pedophiles, rapists, traffickers, ABUSERS, monsters...

And sadly Those numbers are increasing.

Genesis, just to use as reference, terms then Serpent Seed,

Using that as an analogy or metaphor, Serpents, hunt eggs and young, and they, male and female, are basically the same in nature. The DE GENDERING...is a SERPENT TRAIT.

But now, Here's where many make their mistake...Misogyny, under a patriarchy, is Also the Serpent because it's about POWER and CONSUMPTION...the Anti thesis to LIFE.

A Distortion if Good LIFE giving POWER and Energy, as though it's power, it's a NECROPHALLIC destructive power. in the beginning it can balance with the female force...but once the female force is consumed or morphed INTO the serpent, then all that is left is the destructive...Light cannot sit with darkness. This is why it's an oxymoron to say one is Pro LIFE and in bed with PRO HATE OF WOMBS. It's retarded at best, a serpent lie.

So, it's not is much Misandry you are seeing as its a forced agenda of DE GENDERING or ERASURE of the FEMININE LIFE PROTECTION,

And their GOAL is to DEVOUR THE SOULS OF CHILDREN.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:26 PM
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There is way more to this, in depth, which due to time right now I didn't post all here, but bottom line it's spiritual. And I'm not the only one who sees this, or theorizes in this way...and many through time,

Have also seen and warned. The women Prior to the Industrial revolution, both right, left, religious and even non religious but who had strong moral instincts Saw the dangers of capitalist society AND the VICTORIANISM Pedowanks culture and it's poisoning of females, into the dumbed down Barbie doll we see today.

They saw the dangers to both Society AND to the Future generations as a whole, and the poisoning began, in the Americas, within the upper classes. These were feminist women, though they did not agree with everything, but my point is, referring Back to many if their warnings, we can see today they were absolutley correct. The Feminine WEAK PASSIVE SEX SLAVE FEMALE today is Exactly what they warned about,

As well as the Consumption Barbie Bimbo. Which I'm going to give it to you straight, they saw the dangers of the so called Christian culture of Their day,

Today it's full grown fruition, within That culture, no more do women MOTHER to PROTECT CHILDREN, but now it's Coddling sex starved abusive men...and when it becomes to much, then they when they want out, are Shocked to see how far the Seroent has encroached into their intimate space...what they Don't realize is that they fed it all along.

On the Other spectrum, we have the females who DO see the serpent BUT they've been enticed by the female Serpent liar, NOT TO DESTROY THE SERPENT, but to TURN IN MORE SO ON THE FEMALE LIFE FORCE...

So they really, are TWINS of the passive female slave who Worships the serpent.

Then there is just the really evil ones who are just psycho from birth, I don't have the answers to that one...

My thing is that Both male and female have two natures they can feed, either the Seroent or the life, both are agents of choice,

However that being said, due to the Power structure of the planet, patriarchal, Serpent, again using that AS an analogy, we could use hyenas or cultures, what have you, but due to the worshipped structures, what we see is more assimilation and morphing into the BEAST...

And the FRUIT that cannot be denied, is the Rationalization and increase if, ESPECIALLY IN THE COURTS, of Pedophilia and Child Abuse, hatred of Mothers, not because they love fathers,,,but because it serves an Agenda where CHILDREN ARE COMPLETELY VULNERABLE TO BE SOUL DEVOURED.

The STATE wants this because they want the Souls of children as their own. To Use them or destroy them.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:34 PM
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Pmt has a lot to answer for.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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See MANY, NOT ALL BUT MANY MEN are sex ruled, without Morality restraints, many, not all but many would rape infants, even their own, IF there was no protection of infants, etc. Talking here about the most Debased of nature, the Agenda of these sex starved porn types, is the absolute removal of Anything CONSCIOUS or that would say, you need CONSENT. These types don't give a damn about consent, ONLY THEIR LUSTS,
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No, I disagree.

Everyone has sexual desires, that's part of being human. However, while men may be more sexually attuned than women (and I'm not convinced this is the case at all), I do not believe "many" men are sex-ruled and without restraints. To say that "many" men would rape an infant, even their own child, flies in the face of logic and history and is exactly what the OP is about.

Most men don't commit sexual crimes. Most men are wonderful husbands and fathers, brothers and friends, who would never consider rapng anyone, much less an infant.

What you've done here is paint a picture of "many" men that is totally inaccurate. It's misandry, pure and simple.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by luciddream
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You must be deluded if you think 100% female behind the original feminist movement, there were MANY males that supported the movement.


aye im absolutely aware of that, before the feminist movement even started there were men supporting women to start fighting for their rights. A couple of english poets spring to mind.


Stop gloating, only reason female have right is because males decided to withdraw and give fair chance.


Now who's deluded? That statement is factually wrong and takes away from the plight of the original Suffragettes. The way men like yourself portray women, its a miracle we manage to dress ourselves on a morning without help


And where exactly am i gloating?


Women have their rights and thats thanks mainly to the women who fought for it, Many men stacked themselves against the very idea women have even a legal idenitity so please dont make out like your sex has personally done me favour. Down boy.


You act like you went head to head with males and won,


You act like i couldnt intellectually go head to head and win. I can.


i guess that how any feminist would think anyway.


And guess would be the key word there because obviously you excel in your own opinions of how things happened.


You think females would rights if males were 100% against it?


The majority of men were against it yet here we are?? Your question answered.

1-0 to the women..



just think for a second.


Not much to think over really.


Real feminist movement women appreciated what they received,


Expecting women to be grateful for being handed simple rights after thousands of years of oppression? Get real mate. Change the attitude.


the modern feminist just whine like B**es and set the balance off. Only because modern males are conditioned to NOT speak back.


Modern males are conditioned not to speak back yet here you are b***hing at me? Must be a keyboard warrior, does your mother know your posting on this forum?
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posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:51 PM
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Take a deep breathe now cuzz I Know you misogynist wife beaters out there are fuming and you dumbed down female sell outs are seething...and to be truthful, I don't give a damn. I DO CARE about the MILLIONS of DESTROYED FEMALE SOULS that YOUR KIND produce. So for Them, I will speak.
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Three Bears.....I'm really speechless after reading your lengthy post. No offense, but you come across as someone who's decided to hate ALL men and women who disagree with you. You seem extremely angry and hurt. I don't know your background, or what life events may have influenced these feelings.

But your words are uncalled for. "Mysoginistic wife beaters" and " dumbed down female sell outs,".... Really? You do realize men are also the victim of domestic abuse, right? That women can rape and abuse men, physically and emotionally?

Your post comes across as if you see all men as the enemy. Men aren't the enemy of women, anymore than women are the enemy of men. Some men hate women, true. And, as evidenced in your posts, some women hate men. But this is a minority and not at all typical in society.

I have problems with trusting strange men because of my rape, but in no way do I equate the actions of the one individual with all men. To do so is ludicrous. Wile I am more alert and wary now, I don't view men as my enemy. I truly believe the majority of men are like the majority of women....kind, decent human beings who would rather help someone than hurt them.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 02:58 PM
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And you know what i find even more hilarious, the fact your attacking me on the feminist issue and i didnt even bring it up. Guys like yourself are more concerned with feminism then women like myself who dont even identify with the modern stands of it. You must be scared.

You give off the impression you're absolutely #ting where the movement choose's to go next, clutching your manhood while mentally clinging to the conspiracy that women's rights were a big economical set up to screw over your average man. You just cant see past your own gender can you? Are you a socio path mate? Do you care only about yourself first and very little about every one else?

You should be gratful that im even bothering to reply to you, i can feel my I.Q dropping just reading your whining dribble on this thread about how much you hate feminism yada yada yada. How the hell have your genes even made to this day? Does your family have a history of duping women into carrying your genetics on?

Talk about breeding ignorance.





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