posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 09:41 PM
I'm really glad you started this thread. I've been sort of morbidly fascinated with the more fanatical feminist groups for the last few months, and
also with so called Men's Rights Activists. Frankly, I think both groups probably started out with good intentions and have grown into something
I'm not personally offended by the doddering husband trope often seen in sitcoms and commercials. I genuinely find them funny, and they usually
strike a chord with me. I've always had wonderful strong women around. Almost every woman I've dated has been a strong character, and I tend to
make clumsy mistakes that they help me with. I get how some people are frustrated by it though. You mentioned that many commercials are aimed at men
with the promise of attracting a mate. While I think that's true, women REALLY get the brunt of that type of advertising from what I've seen. The
only thing I can really think of I've bought in the last year that's only purpose or appeal was attracting the other sex is cologne. If it were up
to me I'd rarely bathe and rub gasoline behind my ears.
What I DO have a problem with are many of the laws on the books, especially in regards to child custody and divorce. They seem incredibly outdated.
Back in the day, when a woman was a homemaker, had little to no education and the man was the sole bread winner I think the laws made a lot more
sense. Today it seems like the courts award a ridiculous amount of money to the mother, and it's very hard for the father to get equal custody and
nearly impossible for them to have custody full time. I think that's ridiculous.
I also take issue with the idea that if two people have drunken sex, and the woman later calls it rape when feelings of regret arise, it's very hard
for the man to fight it. I absolutely understand that date rape happens, and often. I also am aware that there is a huge difference between being so
drunk you can't say no, and being sloppy and overlooking the partners weight/general fugliness and sometimes tail or third eye. I firmly believe
rape is an awful, awful crime and understand in many cases it goes completely unreported which I also think is a travesty. That being said, if
you're a man you better make sure you know the girl your bringing home, because if she screams rape her word is going to hold more weight, which is a
huge issue. Now this isn't always true, there are a lot of victim blamers, but I think the majority of folks are going to believe a man guilty
before his day in court, and sadly during it.
One thing I've had some slight personal experience with and seen happen to friends is a complete disregard for men in domestic disputes. I had an ex
that was acting like a complete nutter during a fight, she took a swing at me and I blocked it. She had a bruise on her wrist from it and had she
been the vindictive sort could have easily had me thrown in jail. Who are the cops going to believe? The guy or the girl that weighs 100 pounds
soaking wet? I've also seen friends families destroyed by this nonsense. It's not that I think women aren't more likely to be abused, it's that
no matter what the guy is going to have a lot more 'splainin to do and people will almost always side with the woman.
I think it's very clear that we have some archaic laws concerning men and women. They need to change, and soon. I believe a TRUE feminist would
Here is why I think feminism still has a place. Women DO get payed less. It's a fact. Women DO get raped and physically abused more often. Women
are still treated like crap because they are women. I've seen all of this first hand, and I take absolutely no issue with anyone that stands up
against this type of mistreatment. Women and men that strive for equality, which as you said is what we should all be striving for, are awesome in my
book. I don't want to see any woman scared to speak up if she gets sexually harassed, passed over for promotions or treated like a "little lady".
Treat my Mom like that in front of me and you're getting punched in the nose.
I hate this new age feminism. Everything is taboo, and if you make even the slightest joke about male/female differences you're as bad as a rapist.
It's fine to joke about murder, but joke around and say my cell phone company really bent me over and you're a part of the 'rape culture'
destroying women's lives. You can't have an honest discussion about some of the issues men are facing because women are so subjugated by the
patriarchy and my penis means I'm privileged so I just can't understand any sort of discrimination. Being white and straight is apparently equally
as abhorrent. Men bad girls good.
I have a ton of female friends and we just get along. We're equal. My Dr. is female. I trust her as much as a male Dr.
Good thread. My view is that feminism still has a place if its for actual equality and not man bashing. I love women. They're awesome.