Comet Ison, the biblical connection, and our possible end

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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:14 PM
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You keep repeating the same thing over and over, but you are not giving any source material to back up what you are saying.

What news reports? What scientific data?

Its your thread, the burden of proof falls to you. If you want to be taken seriously you have to back up what you say, and not just tell people you want to keep it scientific.

Science is about facts, and showing data that backs up your statements.

FYI You Tube is not a credible source of material.

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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:20 PM
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cool stuff man



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:23 PM
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That kind of thread, with religious doomporn, and with bible quotes supposed to supercede science, and with absurd claims such as "The comet is supposed to be brighter than full moon" (you know that comet don't emit light and only reflect the light from the sun, right ?) is typically why I'm against any form of religion and think they should all be considered as what they are: Sects.
Religion is it's own worse ennemy, keeping its most believing adepts in obscurantism. Mankind should evolve and drop them once and for all.

Btw, can't wait to see what op will have to say after his "Doomdate" passes and nothing happens.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:05 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall
This really could be the big one that ends 3/4 of all life on earth


Just the aliens baby. Just the aliens.



God doesn't live to hate humans and destroy his creation.

I wouldn't plan on a cateclism though even if it affects earth. Most catastrophes are merely enough to warn people, not destroy entire civilizations. Most people alive on earth today are contain more humanity and goodness than the population that existed during Noah's flood and Sodom and Gomorrah.

I would look more on the order of localized affects, not planetary destruction.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall
I'm not going to try and suger coat this and instead I'm going to cut to the chase. Earth is going to pass through comet Ison's tail in mid to late January of 2014. What's most disturbing is how wrong comet science has been over the last 3 decades. When the comet enters the habitable zone of the solar system it will be spewing off hydrogen, hydroxil, H2O, and Hydrogen Peroxide. Yes you heard me right. It will be raining not only hydrogen peroxide but the free radical hydrogen could ignite and rain fire. Hydrogen peroxide in concentrated amounts are used in rocket fuel.

The government would love to have you believe comets are big frozen ice balls with a little space dust mixed in but nothing could be further from the truth. Most if not all comets contain zero water yet produce hydrogen and water vapor trails behind them. This is because the rock formations of comets are littered with silicate based minerals which when bombarded by protons from the sun create all the hydrogen and H20 visible in the tail. This is groundbreaking science currently being studied yet all the falsified lessons of the past have yet to be pulled from textbooks.

So when this comets tail engulfs the earth prepare for the oceans and rivers to turn bitter and fire and brimstone to rain down on us. Not to mention we could see massive floods like int he days of Noah due to immense additional hydrogen and H20 being produced and flung at and into our atmosphere. Our magnetic field will not be able to function correctly when it's being bombarded from both sides.

This really could be the big one that ends 3/4 of all life on earth. Stay stocked and stay safe.


perhaps, LTA, "they" told you a symbolical message ?

yes i know about ison, "I-the Son",
and how They invented the *cough* russian telescope name who *cough* spotted this ison.

Elenin was Their playout:
if people believed elenin, they surely wont question *cough* Ison.

or better: people will believe ánything, now.

That was the Goal.

...remember the superbowl halftime?
and the "two faces podium, and the stars above"?
that was Nut
the egyptian sky
who entered the sun and the sun left the other side of the sky.

The Ritual was,
to let the people ask I-son downhere.

False Light.

so, its not about a ' real comet '
but about false Light dimension.
the 1st horse of 4.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall
I'm not going to try and suger coat this and instead I'm going to cut to the chase. Earth is going to pass through comet Ison's tail in mid to late January of 2014. What's most disturbing is how wrong comet science has been over the last 3 decades. When the comet enters the habitable zone of the solar system it will be spewing off hydrogen, hydroxil, H2O, and Hydrogen Peroxide. Yes you heard me right. It will be raining not only hydrogen peroxide but the free radical hydrogen could ignite and rain fire. Hydrogen peroxide in concentrated amounts are used in rocket fuel.

The government would love to have you believe comets are big frozen ice balls with a little space dust mixed in but nothing could be further from the truth. Most if not all comets contain zero water yet produce hydrogen and water vapor trails behind them. This is because the rock formations of comets are littered with silicate based minerals which when bombarded by protons from the sun create all the hydrogen and H20 visible in the tail. This is groundbreaking science currently being studied yet all the falsified lessons of the past have yet to be pulled from textbooks.

So when this comets tail engulfs the earth prepare for the oceans and rivers to turn bitter and fire and brimstone to rain down on us. Not to mention we could see massive floods like int he days of Noah due to immense additional hydrogen and H20 being produced and flung at and into our atmosphere. Our magnetic field will not be able to function correctly when it's being bombarded from both sides.

This really could be the big one that ends 3/4 of all life on earth. Stay stocked and stay safe.


First you don't have that well of an understanding of chemistry. Its spelled Hydroxyl and Hydroxyl is the name of a functional group and not a compound. Hydrogen peroxided is two hydroxy groups bounded at the oxygen. Also non of this is going to reach the surface of the earth. All of the things you have mention are highly reactive and will probably bound to something in the upper atmosphere. Remember when some people where saying we were going to pass through Elelinins tail which contained H2S or HCN and it was going to kill people. Did it happen? No. It reacted with stuff in our atmosphere and the rest got diluted in the enormity of our atmosphere. So please before posting this fear mongering B/S do a little research on the stuff your telling people is going to kill them. The most that's going to happen when we pass through the tail is going to be a new meteor shower, and from my experience of watching them they don't kill 3/4 of the population.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:59 PM
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Originally posted by Ghostfreak1
That kind of thread, with religious doomporn, and with bible quotes supposed to supercede science, and with absurd claims such as "The comet is supposed to be brighter than full moon" (you know that comet don't emit light and only reflect the light from the sun, right ?)


Oh good god even *I* missed that gem.

Ahhh.. Madness..



The science.. The science is burning my eyes...



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by Mythos13
reply to post by libertytoall
 


You keep repeating the same thing over and over, but you are not giving any source material to back up what you are saying.

What news reports? What scientific data?

Its your thread, the burden of proof falls to you. If you want to be taken seriously you have to back up what you say, and not just tell people you want to keep it scientific.

Science is about facts, and showing data that backs up your statements.

FYI You Tube is not a credible source of material.

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If I post a youtube video that explains what is already fact in laymen terms for the people who do not know that automatically makes it falsified? I'm going to post a youtube video right now where I claim 2 + 2 = 4. Feel free to call it rubbish. The fact is the newest science is saying comets create water vapor jets out of nothing.. Do you believe it's created out of nothing or are you willing to accept a proven scientific fact that silicate based minerals when bombarded by protons create hydroxil and hydrogen oxygen variants? You're arguing against what is proven. You can argue the comet won't have any effect because _____ as I'm arguing based on opinion that it will have an enormous effect. The scenario of how it will effect earth is up for debate but you cannot debate any longer what is producing the trail behind comets. There is only one possible explanation left on the table that explains it scientifically. We can debate IF massive amounts of h20, hydrogen, and hydrogen peroxide will enter our atmosphere but if it does, you cannot debate if it will have any effect because it would have to based on the charged particle interaction with our own magnetosphere as well as the effect of hydrogen peroxide on organic life.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:13 PM
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Actually, where does the bible says that this was happening?

I see no connect here..please explain?



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:14 PM
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I understand the information the OP has conveyed.

I realize that there is a possibility towards something like this.

I studied science and guess what, celestial events happen. The question isn't IF it's WHEN.


The naysayers can laugh it up that's fine. At least they are enjoying their ignorance and refusal to consider the infinite possibilities around them. They do say it is quite blissful.

Anyhow. Now I will up the ante with you OP for fun because I speculate about these things ALL the time.
I have even been considering the possibility of meteor showers. Especially in combination with the people claiming the Earth's magnetosphere is weakening.

I do not know what will happen. Anything could happen, like no major events at all. Ison might be a dud who knows? Time will tell, as always.

I don't believe or disbelieve, I consider the alternatives and leave them on the table if they have rational basis of some type.

Good topic OP I have been thinking about ISON in cataclysmic scenarios for months now. It's very existence is amazing and I am fascinated by such events. I have no access to a military bunker so I am kinda screwed if we get a big "light show". But on the other hand, if we have a meteor shower event, bunkers won't help anyone unless they are miles deep.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Ghostfreak1
That kind of thread, with religious doomporn, and with bible quotes supposed to supercede science

Actually the science supercedes the doomporn. Perhaps if you grasped even a smidgeon of the material you would have something requiring intelligence to discuss here. Instead you have baseless attacks mixed up with immature reactions. Obviously something in the material caused you to have a knee jerk childish reaction like the kid that can't stop hitting in preschool.


, and with absurd claims such as "The comet is supposed to be brighter than full moon" (you know that comet don't emit light and only reflect the light from the sun, right ?)

Obviously.. Like when billions of people in the world say the moon is bright they aren't stupid believing the actual moon is glowing.. I don't award you $200 for even coming up with that asinine and insulting comment.


is typically why I'm against any form of religion and think they should all be considered as what they are: Sects.
Religion is it's own worse ennemy, keeping its most believing adepts in obscurantism. Mankind should evolve and drop them once and for all.

Regardless of your own personal beliefs in religion or God, religious texts also serve as a historic record.


Btw, can't wait to see what op will have to say after his "Doomdate" passes and nothing happens.

I hope it does but for the very first time in all the doom and gloom theories this one might actually effect us in a negative way.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall

Originally posted by Mythos13
reply to post by libertytoall
 


You keep repeating the same thing over and over, but you are not giving any source material to back up what you are saying.

What news reports? What scientific data?

Its your thread, the burden of proof falls to you. If you want to be taken seriously you have to back up what you say, and not just tell people you want to keep it scientific.

Science is about facts, and showing data that backs up your statements.

FYI You Tube is not a credible source of material.

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The fact is the newest science is saying comets create water vapor jets out of nothing.. Do you believe it's created out of nothing or are you willing to accept a proven scientific fact that silicate based minerals when bombarded by protons create hydroxil and hydrogen oxygen variants?


Hydroxil does not exist so this is not a fact. Please learn chemistry before trying to scared people with it only to sound utterly stupid by mentioning compounds that don't exist on their own and then not even spelling the name of the functinal group right. Thank you



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by libertytoall


My best guess? They did study ISON and various many other comets which lead them to keep hush hush because just about everything they understood from comets to the formation of our solar system were being torn apart and lit on fire.


I saw a flying disk up close in 1999 with my buddies.
The govt won't even admit what I saw and know is real exists.

Hell it's so covered up you may not even believe me that I even saw it. That's how much they cover up and lie about everything.

Nazis, Time Travelers, Aliens, whatever, who knows? We don't, because they aren't showing us honest results from their investigations into the matters. It's just denials, ridicule, and cover ups. Snow job, white out. Redacting 90% of everything.

So why would I ever trust them about a comet? I'd have to be retarded to trust someone who won't even admit anything about whatever the hell that flying saucer disk I saw was and where they think it may be from or who pilots it. They won't even give me a "hypothesis" to work with. Jerks IMHO. I have a NEED TO KNOW clearance. Why am I being stonewalled?

So yeah, if they thought "maybe we will have a cataclysm", I agree they wouldn't tell me that either.

All I have is my own intellect and ability to discern and question based off what I know and what hypothesis or theories I have to work with.

I don't really know much anything, while at the same time I find I know more than most. Interesting dichotomy of opposites.

Anyways, don't take the naysayers too harshly. They know not what they speak. The future has not happened yet, only Time knows and will reveal these answers.

If none of it happens, awesome! I still thank you for reminding me that such possibilities do exist and celestial cataclysms are not uncommon in fact it's the most common denominator in the entire universe.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:26 PM
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Well you've done a good job explaining what could go so SnF.

Just to lighten it up a bit, we may only need to difuse this puppy somehow.




posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by stirling
Nobody died when we passed trough the tail of comet halley way back when.....
I call DOOM TROLL

Good call

It happened in 1910 and there were no direct casualties.

I say direct, because I believe that some people committed suicide. Why did they do that? Because there were doomsayers back then too.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:28 PM
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How big is this comet that's going to spew hydrogen peroxide and other nasty substances in to our atmosphere? LoL



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:32 PM
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I wouldn't worry about the hydrogen peroxide. The thermodynamics favor its spontaneous decomposition to water and O2. Light, heat, and pH can accelerate this...ever notice the peroxide you buy for the home comes in a brown container? It's light-sensitive.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Getting a little tail never hurt anyone.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:35 PM
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Originally posted by FatherStacks
I wouldn't worry about the hydrogen peroxide. The thermodynamics favor its spontaneous decomposition to water and O2. Light, heat, and pH can accelerate this...ever notice the peroxide you buy for the home comes in a brown container? It's light-sensitive.


YEAYYYY some one that actually understands Chemical reactions. Also the comet is about 5km or about 3.1 miles in diameter.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:37 PM
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BTW I don't call anything doom porn really. That's like cliche and very clear cognitive dissonance.

What are people scared? Ohhh it's so scary to think about. Whatever, get a grip people. Stop being afraid of everything. Everyone dies eventually get over it.

This world's culture is so shallow. They all quest for immortality and all fail dismally. Their elixirs are poisons and their minds and hearts are empty.

What am I going to call every emergency professional a doom porn addict? Or shall we say medics or surgeons are demented for helping injured people because they choose to get blood on their hands and dig in the guts?

Nah I am not afraid of the end of the world or boogey men out to get me or anything. If it happens it happens that is fate who cares not a big deal honestly.

But let's assume that something big could happen possibly. Isn't considering it in the first place the ONLY way to devise methods to potentially mitigate it's dangers %??

This is why I frown upon those who ridicule topics such as Celestial Cataclysms and their related subjects. History, astronomy, etc.

It is smart and wise to consider possible danger and develop precautionary measures if possible.





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