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"Hastings drove like a Grandma" (Says friends and relatives)

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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 10:19 PM
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Dude, there is no turn anywhere. It was just him blazing through a red at Santa Monica and Highland. Kinda like someone that had no brakes.




posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 10:24 PM
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What was the reporter's name..... He died and many suspected foul play.... Breitbart I think...

I remember seeing a video of a young man who saw Breitbart die on the side of the road, heart attack I believe was the official cause of death. If I recall correctly, I believe this young man either died in a car crash, or just mysteriously vanished after being identified as a witness to Breitbart's death.

I wonder if there are many similarities between the Breitbart death and the Hastings death?



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 10:30 PM
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Originally posted by intrptr
...I looked at the video again. Did you see the water shooting up out of the ground? He ran over a fire hydrant. That "probably" contributed to extensive damage to the undercarriage of his car, including but not limited to dislodging of parts and or ripping open the gas tank. ...

That is what one might think, at first. However, I don't believe a fire hydrant was located there. Every picture I have found of the location (before &/or after) does not show a fire hydrant. It may have been (probably was) an automatic sprinkler head that the city uses to water the median... I don't think that it was "up" either...when the Mercedes arrived, as none of the other sprinklers on the median appear to be operating through the various stages of filming.
The Mercedes either - somehow hit (as in - from an out of control roll-over) the sprinkler head, or when the vehicle hit the tree - the explosion/shock-wave might have caused the "head" to dislodge. (I guess flying debris might have caused it, too.)


If I was to guess by looking at the sequence, the car ran off the road, hit the fire plug, burst into flames and slammed into that tree. If he was knocked unconscious by the impact with the tree, then that is why he burned in the wreckage.

JBA2848 posted some interesting specs for the particular model of Mercedes (on another thread)...regarding the numerous airbags. Seems like EVERYTHING that could go wrong, did.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:35 AM
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Originally posted by Isittruee
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Couple of things..
Ran a red light. Way over the speed limit. Cop didn't move till 2 minutes after he ran the red light and wasn't on scene till 4 minutes later. Wasn't in much of a hurry either. Why is that?

The cop probably finished his doughnut before he pulled out.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:47 AM
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Originally posted by GrantedBail
It appears that those closest to Michael Hastings aren't buying the 100 mph speeding like a bat out of heck story. So what happened that night??


Friend: Michael Hastings Was Working on “Biggest Story Yet” About CIA

A friend of Michael Hastings told Fox News today that the Rolling Stone journalist was working on the “the biggest story yet” about the CIA before his suspicious death and that Hastings drove “like a grandma,” making it extremely out of character for him to be speeding in the early hours of the morning.

Sgt. Joe Biggs told Fox News’ Megyn Kelly that “something didn’t feel right” after Hastings sent a panicked email saying the authorities were on his tail, adding that the story of him driving at high speed in the early hours of the morning was completely out of character.

“His friends and family that know him, everyone says he drives like a grandma, so that right there doesn’t seem like something he’d be doing, there’s no way that he’d be acting erratic like that and driving out of control,” said Biggs, adding that “things don’t add up, there’s a lot of questions that need to be answered.”

Biggs said he had contacted Mercedes asking them if it was normal for their cars to “blow up to that extent” and for the engine to fly out 100 feet from the site of the crash.


Story


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You might well be on topic.
The LA Times reported that he was working on the Patraeus-Jill Kelley real background story and that he was about to meet a Jill Kelley/Khawam representative in the next days. Patraeus wasnt that "far" from CIA, was he? Also, Patraeus' previous history in Afghanistan would match with Hasting's previous investigations. At least the LA Times report doesnt sound unplausible and it is fitting pretty well with your text, too.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 06:23 AM
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There are a lot of things about this that do not make sense.

1. There is no real evidence that the "speeding" video seen is Hastings, that he is driving, or that the video of the speeding car was even taken on the night of the accident. There is a fading cut in that video which could allow for piecing together two different periods of time.

2. There is no information identifying the person who filmed this, and being "in the right place" and then asking questions like "did you see them get out of the car?", focusing on a beer bottle, asking if he was speeding, that's all suspicious to me. As far as he's concerned this is just an accident, why all the interest as though he expects there to be a big story about this? It seems strange that this would be released so quickly as a big story, when as far as he's concerned this is just some random driver.

3. I trust the opinions of his friends and family, and if they say he doesn't speed, and this is totally out of character, then I am inclined to believe them.

4. There is debris all over the road, and the engine is a considerable distance from the crash, yet there is seemingly little damage to the roof or sides of the vehicle, showing that it probably didn't roll over. Why is there so much scattered debris if the car didn't roll?

5. Contrary to misconceptions here, vehicles have to conform to rigorous testing, they are designed NOT to explode on impact, and there are already a lot of people commenting that such a fireball is exactly what makers design to PREVENT. Why did this vehicle explode on impact when billions have been invested in the manufacturing process to prevent exactly this from happening?

6. Also contrary to what some others have suggested, engines do not simply eject themselves from a vehicle on impact. To suggest that the engine flew out of the body of the car when it hit the tree is so stupid I don't even know what to say to that! This is so implausible it's almost a joke.

7. The mathematical probability of a successful journalist being about to expose a massive story, calling others to warn them of the dangers from the CIA etc, then being killed THAT NIGHT in a single car crash where the engine miraculously flew out of the body of a vehicle after hitting a tree is such an unlikely and implausible series of events that people SHOULD be suspicious about this.

That's my take on it. I agree that there needs to be some kind of real evidence to be able to really prove that he was murdered, but just working on probability and plausibility alone tells me he was killed and silenced.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 06:39 AM
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I wonder how many traffic tickets he's had in the last five years for moving violations? If it's none then there must be a reason out side of his own actions that he wrecked.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 07:02 AM
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Originally posted by intrptr

Originally posted by GrantedBail
It appears that those closest to Michael Hastings aren't buying the 100 mph speeding like a bat out of heck story. So what happened that night??

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Also, that Mercedes is not for people who drive like grandmas...


Ohh yes, it is! It really, really is a car which is usually driven by the more... prudent folks. You can't drive a Mercedes like a BMW. Or even like a Lexus.. Yes, I know what I am speaking of.. Or did he drive an AMG? I doubt that.

And what did he hit? A roadblock which was the right shape that his motor was sent up in the air, instead of being pushed under the passenger compartment as usual and intended?



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 07:20 AM
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Regardless of whether it could have happened this way or not, just knowing that it's possible is scary enough...


Now there's another theory to contribute to the paranoia: According to a prominent security analyst, technology exists that could've allowed someone to hack his car. Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard Clarke told The Huffington Post that what is known about the single-vehicle crash is "consistent with a car cyber attack."

Clarke said, "There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers" -- including the United States -- know how to remotely seize control of a car.

"What has been revealed as a result of some research at universities is that it's relatively easy to hack your way into the control system of a car, and to do such things as cause acceleration when the driver doesn't want acceleration, to throw on the brakes when the driver doesn't want the brakes on, to launch an air bag," Clarke told The Huffington Post. "You can do some really highly destructive things now, through hacking a car, and it's not that hard."


www.huffingtonpost.com...



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 08:04 AM
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5. Contrary to misconceptions here, vehicles have to conform to rigorous testing, they are designed NOT to explode on impact, and there are already a lot of people commenting that such a fireball is exactly what makers design to PREVENT. Why did this vehicle explode on impact when billions have been invested in the manufacturing process to prevent exactly this from happening?

6. Also contrary to what some others have suggested, engines do not simply eject themselves from a vehicle on impact. To suggest that the engine flew out of the body of the car when it hit the tree is so stupid I don't even know what to say to that! This is so implausible it's almost a joke.


I'm incredibly surprised no one has mention those two points thus far in this thread. I logged in just to simply state the exact same thing and then I saw this. Engines have been ejected from vehicles in accidents before, dont get me wrong, but the aftermath wasn't nearly as bad as Hasting's accident.





And there's this which seems to be a standard feature.


mbrace Automatic Collision Notification
In the event that an air bag or Emergency Tensioning Device is activated, mbrace initiates a call to the Mercedes-Benz Emergency Response Center to notify them of the incident, and provide information on your vehicle and its location. A Customer Specialist will then attempt to make voice contact with you. If you request help, or do not respond, they will notify local emergency response services, and stay on the line until help arrives.[*9,*10,*11]


If it's anything like OnStar and whatnot, I'm sure it's like a "black box" and records your speed, force of breaking etc. The data is accessible, just needs to be released (lol?).
edit on 26-6-2013 by itsmethegoat because: added mBrace quote.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 08:34 AM
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I can never understand why people like Hastings, Breitbart, hell, even Glenn Beck, telegraph to others that they have "big news" to let out of the bag. Why they don't just keep their mouth shut and just release the info is beyond me, especially since they should know that phone calls, emails, and other electronic communications are eavesdropped and monitored. Don't they realize that they're prime targets for "accidents", especially if they're going to release something damaging re: the government or a government agency? They're just asking for it when their need to tell others before actually releasing their info is their downfall. It's no secret people have been silenced for decades.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 08:39 AM
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Right, right, he had dirt on the CIA, who aren't supposed be active inside the US, so they killed him. Now, the 200 HP, C class Mercedes, this "reckless daredevil of a reporter" drove like a "grandmother", I just don't buy the CIA thing.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 08:46 AM
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It's Los Angeles. Every other car is a Mercedes.

To think that this investigative reporter would notify friends that something big was going down, big enough that he had to 'disappear' for a few days, and that a few hours later he apparently screamed down the road at 4:30 in the morning and ended up in an exploded car 'because he needed to use the bathroom' is ridiculous.

[SNIP]
edit on 6/26/2013 by AshleyD because: Removed personal insult towards another member.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 09:01 AM
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Looks like he is going reasonable speed ... I'd guess between 30 and 40 mph. If he was going 100, it would be nearly a blur. If he was going 60, he wouldn't be in that small frame nearly as long.

That is not a sports car.

You may be scared of cars that don't look like honda civics, but just because the styling is fancy and the badge is expensive does not mean it is a race car. In fact, Honda Civic Sis are quite a bit faster than that Merc, as are quite a few other cars that a lot of people drive.



I used to drive an RX-8 ... and had someone in a truck tell me I didn't deserve the car because I drove like a 'grandma' ... because I accelerated slowly and obeyed the posted speed limit. So; just because you have a 'sports car' capable of speed and acceleration, doesn't mean you drive irresponsibly ... sometimes you just buy and drive what you like, for how it looks and feels.


And just because the camera shows he wasn't speeding excessively, doesn't mean he didn't further down the road as well. If you think he was going faster than 30-40 mph, some people accelerate to get through a 'yellow' light and return to limits once through the light by coasting down to speed.


Believe whatever you like though, (mostly) free country and all.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 10:19 AM
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Nice try, but that's not a Mercedes in the first clip.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by Bilk22
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Nice try, but that's not a Mercedes in the first clip.


Neither are the other clips. I tried to find the worst crashes possible all with cars that have a far lower crash rating than a Mercedes.

(Yet, they seem to fair better?)

Like I said, if the car he was driving looked like that, Mercedes should be looking at a massive recall.

There is not reason a car should look like that save lighting a molotov cocktail in the gas tank. It looks in worse shape than the 70s Pinto.


In the very least, this accident should be investigated thoroughly... And pieced together.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 11:11 AM
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I have gone back and looked at that video several times. The point in question is where the cam shows making the last left turn. If you look to the right you will see that cars are parked along the whole right side of the street indicating that there is no right turn option at all. Which, I might add. suggests that it is Not a straight a way. I have looked at the Google map and it does show a straight line from point A to point B. However when you see the video it shows a left only turn there at the last turn the camera makes.. When the camera comes up on the scene you can see that it is facing the same direction as the Hastings vehicle. Which, I will also add, indicates that he made the left turn there.

O.K. .. . Just Maybe I am wrong. But then that means that the Video is a Damn Liar from my perspective.

Also, I would like to add that individuals are touting that this could Not possibly be "Pilot Error" and that his car was tampered with.

Well, .. um, . .. let me put it like this, .. If Mr. Hastings was as smart as some may think he was, then, Why Didn't He Turn the Car OFF, OR, Put the Transmission in Park, OR, reach down under the dash to the left, open the cap and hit the fuel cut-off, OR, Even open the door and jump out. These are All simple and viable solutions and indicate that he was negligent in taking immediate action.

I believe that just because the guy sent an email a couple of hours before does Not mean that an Alphabet Agency hunted him down and killed him.

By the way, just listen to how stupid that sounds. IF he sent that email and ALL of its recipients received it then, in light of recent events indicating that ALL emails are being read by the Alphabet Agencies, wouldn't ALL of the recipients of said email be murdered as well? After all don't they posses the SAME information?

I might admit that the accident may seem just a little suspicious, but, it only seems that way because of the events that led up to the crash.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 11:34 AM
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"Nothing good happens after midnight." How often have we heard that growing up....but seriously, what was he doing out at 4:30 am? Was he going to or coming from a clandestine meeting with someone which was the tipping point with TPTB and the reason he was killed (apparently by remote control of the vehicle and/or onboard bomb)? Not surprisingly....no one has stepped up to say that they had a meeting or planned meeting with him in those early hours.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 11:42 AM
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Anyone pressed the red shiny candy-like button to see what this guy's personal life was like? Has he got a ton of moving violations, records of drug use and the like? Lots of cell phones? Was he on one at the time of the crash? Lots of insurance claims? Is the carfax for that car going to turn up that it's mostly bondo from the fender benders? You'd think the press would have gotten this info by now.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:17 PM
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You'd think CIA shills would try harder.

You'd think that people with something to add would not resort to name calling...

Alas--




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