posted on Jun, 30 2013 @ 11:31 AM
Originally posted by bbracken677
And yet the sun, and it's inconvenient influence are not mentioned I will wager? Nor would the most inconvenient magnetosphere which is losing
strength, most inconveniently, which adds to the warming, most inconveniently.
Crap. No! Actual scientists who do this for a living have been looking at the experimental data for decades and didn't forget about the Sun or other
geophysical processes. Conclusion: current warming is explained mostly by human intervention, and primarily through increased greenhouse gasses.
The data are inconsistent with increased solar forcing, such as polar regions warming more and night time and winter warming more, but all of these
are consistent with increased greenhouse forcing.
Besides, the driving force is a physically validated mechanistic process. It has been verified in the lab, and in the atmosphere by balloon-based
aircraft and spacecraft. The infrared emissivity of the atmosphere has changed, and it is physically impossible for the climate NOT to change, and
globally, get warmer. This is not a conjecture, it is measured fact. Its effect does not EVER turn off even if there are other effects. All physics
is "turned on" at all times everywhere in the universe.
Any future influence from the Sun is unpredictable and might as well be on the upside as the downside, in which case the warming humans have created
would be really catastrophic when added to external solar forcing.
It would be most inconvenient for those in position to make billions of dollars from this to have to 'splain how much an effect the sun and
magnetosphere plays...oh and also, most inconveniently we cannot blame that on man, nor have we figured out a way to profit from that.
Perhaps they could 'splain how or why it is that during the planet's most ecologically prolific eras were ones where the temperatures and CO2 levels
were much higher than now. OMG...it wont be the end of the world!
Indeed. There were three foot-long flying insects too.
And the continents were in entirely different places, and humans or even mammals didn't exist and the climate change is happening enormously faster
than it ever did historically. Is that reassuring? Do you want to live in a world where there are crocodiles in the Arctic? What would happen to
agriculture?
The question isn't whether biological processes would survive, obviously they will. The question is whether human civilization with 7 billion people
will survive.
Congratulations, you are buying into their panic attacks.
You are ignorant about the scientific reality and the dependence and fragility of human civilization.