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Originally posted by muzzleflash
Originally posted by covertpanther
Other people will not take this thread seriously, or even give it a deserved look because they are alrady out flagging and starring anything with "Snowden" in its title..
I saw you questioning the official story and I had to come flag it.
I want people to question everything even themselves.
I am aware of many actual conspiracies or cover-ups which have much evidence to support them, but the MSM won't touch any of them even from a distance. They won't even ridicule them openly on air because they don't want them discussed at all in any manner.
The fact the media is willing to tell us something to fear monger us, but will not tell us the secrets that free our minds, is enough indication for me to know better than to ever trust anything they say.
Their credibility is dismal. I remember what kind of lies they said to get us into Iraq, and how all of them were promoting it hard core. The few in the media who stood against it were ostracized quickly and paid a hefty price.
I don't even think it's possible they could ever salvage their reputation or redeem themselves in my eyes.
Originally posted by covertpanther
reply to post by frazzle
I think the Americans and Russians and Chinese all got over the "against eachother" mentality after the last World War - and the introduction to the space age and alien visitation thing.
This might seem off topic but it sort of connects the "Earth has become a Drama stage" for the public - when the elite military of the world (America, Russia, China, Canada, Germany, Japan etc..) figured out that there was a precense of something WAY more advanced then all of those militaries combined - they must of came together as a pact.
It all happened after the atom bomb was dropped - the "outsiders" must of been on red alert after viewing that explosion from space.. Then you have all these flying saucers and Ufos being seen - then a Roswell crash - ALL of WHICH WERE ADMITTED in the first place -THEN comes the disinformation campaign that hasnt ended. Then the "space race".
Ater military, government figured they were no match for these very advanced and elusive 'craft' everybody was seeing - it must of been a President calls president "look we arent the ones with these incredible craft, and if it isnt you, then who is it?"
This is where I beleive the governments made a pact together - not to release the information to the public, and not show the public that their individual nation leaders were now married to the "enemy". So they just played along, showcasing themselves as elite-power countries who were "Rivals" - when really they were working together to find the real unknown enegy - the advanced craft that have not been caught or confronted.
Again it seems off toic - but if you can follow along with what Im saying here - after the atom bomb - the ETs were flying the skies around Earth. People, media, government, and even millitary were making a huge deal about these "saucers" and such. The military were frightened because they couldnt move that fast, and if they tried to chase and atack - their aerial weaponry was somehow disabled.
Then came the abduction period which lasted decades. And the space race as I mentioned - there was a new threat, and the governments of the world realized they were inferior technologically. So are they gonna piss and fight still? Or make amends and work together.
And what IM SAYING IN THE OP AAD IN THIS POST - is they made amends and are using people as pawns, creating a drama stage to confuse and allude the people into something BIGGER then things like Edward Snowden.
Sorry for the random "alien visitation/Edward Snowden" thing LOL! But the point is Edward Snowden is an ACT - a play on the drama stage of Earth. The elite governments DO NOT oppose eachother - they would of already dropped nukes by now if they did - like Kim Yong or whatever threatening a few months ago - nothing happend = a TEST.
Its all a test to see how numb the people are - so the controllers can..well.. Take totall control and possibly challenge the threat they saw some 65+ years ago
Originally posted by frazzle
Can't say that I get into the alien visitation thing very much, although I have long toyed with a theory that at some point in the far distant past Earth may have been designated by the inhabitants of other planets as a penal colony for their criminal elements. The Van Allen belt would serve as an effective barbed wire fence to keep the prisoners in and it would explain better than anything else I've ever heard how the various races came to be.
But if we wreck the prison, why would they care? We can't get out of it and I don't suppose they're going to do anything save our butts for us. If we don't do something to save our own butts, well .... we can probably kiss them goodbye, I suppose.
If you do not know about the visitations, then your probably new to this site - or you havent done thorough research into the topic. The topic of ET/UFO and abductions - something the governments who are pulling the strings (same guys playing the "Edward Snowden show > Live on CNN!) - have invested many years and effort into the subject and have made it TOP SECRET.
This thread Here - Lost Walt Disney UFO Documentaryis very thorough of the history of what Im talking about. The government leaders realized as i said - that fighting eachother is USELESS when they're is clearly a much more advanced race flying around.
People who dont beleive ETs/UFOs just havent done their research, or do not travel much and therefore are stuck in the box trap soceity - and THEREFORE - have a limited perceptin on reality. And something like advanced beings would rattle them.
But your government leaders AGAIN - know about this, invest in this, and I beleive have came together over this "situation" LONG AGO. Like the 50's/60's... And have been playing "good cop, bad cop" ever since. But THAT is just drama play on the stage called 'Earth'
If the very people you own you and control every asspect of your LIFE - invest deeply into this subject and 'reality' - and you dont beleive it to begin with - who is wrong there?
Think about that - and definately WATCH that film before its deleted off the internet
edit on 25-6-2013 by covertpanther because: (no reason given)
And something like advanced beings would rattle them.
Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by kelownascott
If none of you have seen the thread "Who is the Donilon family and why do they have so much influence in the white house?"
Take a look - Tom Donilon was the head of the NSA, and stepped down - He is a washington insider and has been around for decades. The NYT has a picture of him sitting next to Putin during the boston bombing fiasco - that's where he and his wife fled to - Russia - before all of the different "scandals" broke this year.
Originally posted by Wonderer2012
reply to post by covertpanther
S+F OP. What a thread
I was about to start my own thread about this very thing when I saw you beat me to it. Not only that, you went to to discuss things that have been on my mind lately- namely that people don't see the big picture. Very strange coincidence really because you mirror a lot of my thoughts. My title was going to be 'Eric Snowden- the tip of the iceberg?'
Where I might disagree with your take on the conspiracy is that I don't think Snowden is a 'test' per say, I would be more inclined to see it as another piece in the jigsaw on the road to civil unrest. Civil unrest that is being engineered by those who seek to bring America down. Not the government, they too are pawns when you look at the big picture. I'm talking about the 'hidden hand', the real controllers who have gained control of much of the word's finances and resources on their relentless march to a world government.
Eric Snowden's revelarions are just another piece in programming the masses in the gear up to civil unrest. TV shows, video games, movies, music, the last few years has been a programming exercise, molding the collective consciousness of the masses towards the next step in the agenda.
How it pans out, or the timeline of it, I don't know but you seemingly tuned into a lot of things I was planning on discussing in my thread until I saw yours!
Originally posted by StrangeTimez
Bro, this is so blown up because it STARTED on a global scale as well as having global implications. He released these leaks from China. There is no way they could have squashed it. Sometimes you have to roll with the punches. This is legit. If you dont think so just wait a little while longer till he releases more and your testing the waters theory is shot to hell. He will continue until he gets the reaction he wants. Action by the people.
Beside the fact that if what you say is true they would have ANYONE other then Glenn Greenwald reporting this. That man is no fool. Read ANY of his articles.
How much sense does this logic make: Give someone a reason to kill you. If they dont, they are ready to be manipulated. Some of you get so wound up in conspiracy theories thats all you see, everywhere. Take a breath and join the cause. YOU arent doing anything about it are you? Except flipping it into a conpiracy theory while you sit at home. Wouldnt that inaction make you a sheep ready to be sheered?edit on 26-6-2013 by StrangeTimez because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by covertpanther
Take it easy guy.. Clearly you have your head too far in the sand, pull it out
You miss the point - there is NO proof he was even in Hong Kong, jsut his youtube video saying he was in Hong Kong - I could make a video in a downtown hotel, say Im a work for *this agency* and Im present in Hong Kong, then upload it to youtube TOO! Does it make a fact to the guy watching the video behind his computer desk? NO.
Im breathing jsut fine guy, thats why I meditate Its my only sane-place in this dramatic reality show we call 'Earth'. It seems to me I have done more then you - I made a public thread expressing how I beleive its all a deception, you just jump on the bandwagon at the first thing that pleases your eyes and ears... and EXCUSE me guy?!? I THINK Edward Snowden made it into conspiracy NOT ME. Are you lost?
Btw I dont live in the states - Im leaving for Scandanavia in 2 weeks, then taking a trip to *Blank* (yea right NSA) .. So no Im not just sitting on my ass like a "sheep". Why are you talking down to me because I dont "join the cause" like you? Sorry guy, but I need a little more then a youtube video and paid journalist to prove to me this isnt a front for something being set up behind the curtain
Thanks for stopping by spaceman.