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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 06:37 PM
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I think the Americans and Russians and Chinese all got over the "against eachother" mentality after the last World War - and the introduction to the space age and alien visitation thing.

This might seem off topic but it sort of connects the "Earth has become a Drama stage" for the public - when the elite military of the world (America, Russia, China, Canada, Germany, Japan etc..) figured out that there was a precense of something WAY more advanced then all of those militaries combined - they must of came together as a pact.

It all happened after the atom bomb was dropped - the "outsiders" must of been on red alert after viewing that explosion from space.. Then you have all these flying saucers and Ufos being seen - then a Roswell crash - ALL of WHICH WERE ADMITTED in the first place -THEN comes the disinformation campaign that hasnt ended. Then the "space race".

Ater military, government figured they were no match for these very advanced and elusive 'craft' everybody was seeing - it must of been a President calls president "look we arent the ones with these incredible craft, and if it isnt you, then who is it?"

This is where I beleive the governments made a pact together - not to release the information to the public, and not show the public that their individual nation leaders were now married to the "enemy". So they just played along, showcasing themselves as elite-power countries who were "Rivals" - when really they were working together to find the real unknown enegy - the advanced craft that have not been caught or confronted.

Again it seems off toic - but if you can follow along with what Im saying here - after the atom bomb - the ETs were flying the skies around Earth. People, media, government, and even millitary were making a huge deal about these "saucers" and such. The military were frightened because they couldnt move that fast, and if they tried to chase and atack - their aerial weaponry was somehow disabled.

Then came the abduction period which lasted decades. And the space race as I mentioned - there was a new threat, and the governments of the world realized they were inferior technologically. So are they gonna piss and fight still? Or make amends and work together.

And what IM SAYING IN THE OP AAD IN THIS POST - is they made amends and are using people as pawns, creating a drama stage to confuse and allude the people into something BIGGER then things like Edward Snowden.

Sorry for the random "alien visitation/Edward Snowden" thing LOL! But the point is Edward Snowden is an ACT - a play on the drama stage of Earth. The elite governments DO NOT oppose eachother - they would of already dropped nukes by now if they did - like Kim Yong or whatever threatening a few months ago - nothing happend = a TEST.

Its all a test to see how numb the people are - so the controllers can..well.. Take totall control and possibly challenge the threat they saw some 65+ years ago




posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by covertpanther

Other people will not take this thread seriously, or even give it a deserved look because they are alrady out flagging and starring anything with "Snowden" in its title..



I saw you questioning the official story and I had to come flag it.

I want people to question everything even themselves.

I am aware of many actual conspiracies or cover-ups which have much evidence to support them, but the MSM won't touch any of them even from a distance. They won't even ridicule them openly on air because they don't want them discussed at all in any manner.

The fact the media is willing to tell us something to fear monger us, but will not tell us the secrets that free our minds, is enough indication for me to know better than to ever trust anything they say.

Their credibility is dismal. I remember what kind of lies they said to get us into Iraq, and how all of them were promoting it hard core. The few in the media who stood against it were ostracized quickly and paid a hefty price.

I don't even think it's possible they could ever salvage their reputation or redeem themselves in my eyes.


You are a very waise individual - a breath of fresh air around my may I add


Thank you for giving this thread notice - all those reptitive threads buying into the drama show.. So pointless. The POINT needs to be made CLEAR:

WE ARE THE PAWNS. THE STAGE, THE TV, THHE POLITICIANS - ARE THERE FOR OUR "ENTERTAINMENT" -TO OCCUPY OUR MINDS WHILE THEY PULL MORE STRINGS BEHIND THE CURTAIN.

Thank you very much for everyone who flagged and gave recognition to this thread



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by covertpanther
reply to post by frazzle
 


I think the Americans and Russians and Chinese all got over the "against eachother" mentality after the last World War - and the introduction to the space age and alien visitation thing.

This might seem off topic but it sort of connects the "Earth has become a Drama stage" for the public - when the elite military of the world (America, Russia, China, Canada, Germany, Japan etc..) figured out that there was a precense of something WAY more advanced then all of those militaries combined - they must of came together as a pact.

It all happened after the atom bomb was dropped - the "outsiders" must of been on red alert after viewing that explosion from space.. Then you have all these flying saucers and Ufos being seen - then a Roswell crash - ALL of WHICH WERE ADMITTED in the first place -THEN comes the disinformation campaign that hasnt ended. Then the "space race".

Ater military, government figured they were no match for these very advanced and elusive 'craft' everybody was seeing - it must of been a President calls president "look we arent the ones with these incredible craft, and if it isnt you, then who is it?"

This is where I beleive the governments made a pact together - not to release the information to the public, and not show the public that their individual nation leaders were now married to the "enemy". So they just played along, showcasing themselves as elite-power countries who were "Rivals" - when really they were working together to find the real unknown enegy - the advanced craft that have not been caught or confronted.

Again it seems off toic - but if you can follow along with what Im saying here - after the atom bomb - the ETs were flying the skies around Earth. People, media, government, and even millitary were making a huge deal about these "saucers" and such. The military were frightened because they couldnt move that fast, and if they tried to chase and atack - their aerial weaponry was somehow disabled.

Then came the abduction period which lasted decades. And the space race as I mentioned - there was a new threat, and the governments of the world realized they were inferior technologically. So are they gonna piss and fight still? Or make amends and work together.

And what IM SAYING IN THE OP AAD IN THIS POST - is they made amends and are using people as pawns, creating a drama stage to confuse and allude the people into something BIGGER then things like Edward Snowden.

Sorry for the random "alien visitation/Edward Snowden" thing LOL! But the point is Edward Snowden is an ACT - a play on the drama stage of Earth. The elite governments DO NOT oppose eachother - they would of already dropped nukes by now if they did - like Kim Yong or whatever threatening a few months ago - nothing happend = a TEST.

Its all a test to see how numb the people are - so the controllers can..well.. Take totall control and possibly challenge the threat they saw some 65+ years ago


Can't say that I get into the alien visitation thing very much, although I have long toyed with a theory that at some point in the far distant past Earth may have been designated by the inhabitants of other planets as a penal colony for their criminal elements. The Van Allen belt would serve as an effective barbed wire fence to keep the prisoners in and it would explain better than anything else I've ever heard how the various races came to be.

But if we wreck the prison, why would they care? We can't get out of it and I don't suppose they're going to do anything save our butts for us. If we don't do something to save our own butts, well .... we can probably kiss them goodbye, I suppose.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 09:26 PM
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Originally posted by frazzle



Can't say that I get into the alien visitation thing very much, although I have long toyed with a theory that at some point in the far distant past Earth may have been designated by the inhabitants of other planets as a penal colony for their criminal elements. The Van Allen belt would serve as an effective barbed wire fence to keep the prisoners in and it would explain better than anything else I've ever heard how the various races came to be.

But if we wreck the prison, why would they care? We can't get out of it and I don't suppose they're going to do anything save our butts for us. If we don't do something to save our own butts, well .... we can probably kiss them goodbye, I suppose.


If you do not know about the visitations, then your probably new to this site - or you havent done thorough research into the topic. The topic of ET/UFO and abductions - something the governments who are pulling the strings (same guys playing the "Edward Snowden show > Live on CNN!) - have invested many years and effort into the subject and have made it TOP SECRET.

This thread Here - Lost Walt Disney UFO Documentaryis very thorough of the history of what Im talking about. The government leaders realized as i said - that fighting eachother is USELESS when they're is clearly a much more advanced race flying around.

People who dont beleive ETs/UFOs just havent done their research, or do not travel much and therefore are stuck in the box trap soceity - and THEREFORE - have a limited perceptin on reality. And something like advanced beings would rattle them.

But your government leaders AGAIN - know about this, invest in this, and I beleive have came together over this "situation" LONG AGO. Like the 50's/60's... And have been playing "good cop, bad cop" ever since. But THAT is just drama play on the stage called 'Earth'


If the very people you own you and control every asspect of your LIFE - invest deeply into this subject and 'reality' - and you dont beleive it to begin with - who is wrong there?

Think about that - and definately WATCH that film before its deleted off the internet
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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 09:52 PM
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And something like advanced beings would rattle them.


Nothing much rattles me. If an advanced being dropped by my house tomorrow morning with some advanced suggestions on how to improve this planet I'd be all ears.

People who say they have interacted with these beings have apparently received no recommendations or instructions from them on how we might rid planet earth of the strange creatures that have been eating our lunch for thousands of years, either. They've had plenty of time to come up with some advanced weaponry to clean this place up, if that was their goal. The proof is, as they say, in the pudding.

BTW, Walt Disney also created Donald Duck to convince people that withholding of their earnings for tax purposes was a good thing.

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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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Best thread av seen in weeks. S&F OP




posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 11:12 PM
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If you want to have a blueprint for what is happening we have to go back to 1992 and the Wolfowitz Doctrine.
work.colum.edu... enjoy



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:11 AM
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If none of you have seen the thread "Who is the Donilon family and why do they have so much influence in the white house?"

Take a look - Tom Donilon was the head of the NSA, and stepped down - He is a washington insider and has been around for decades. The NYT has a picture of him sitting next to Putin during the boston bombing fiasco - that's where he and his wife fled to - Russia - before all of the different "scandals" broke this year.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:33 AM
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I said something similar a few days back however not as eloquently. I agree with you. It wouldn't be wall to wall coverage om all msm channels if there wasn't an agenda. They are breathless in their reporting.

There are a bunch of people that get it. Unfortunately, those that depend upon the MSM solely for their info are having the police state shoved right in their faces. What are they gonna do?? I predict they will go down to Dunkin Doughnuts for their new glazed donut breakfast sandwich....unfortunately,

Bejeezus, what is in those radio waves. Seriously we have a bunch of zombies that would prefer not to think about it.

I will show my dad something that is totally contrary to what he thought. And he believes it and is stupified. Next day, he is sitting in front of Fox snooze. Maybe it is in the water?? The chemtrails, the DAARPA waves. Heck, I don't know but seriously people are not getting it.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:49 AM
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Seems to have replaced all the recent drama, the IRS and all the stuff is now under the rug, while China, Russia and the US supposedly are at odds over Snowden.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:35 AM
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S+F OP. What a thread


I was about to start my own thread about this very thing when I saw you beat me to it. Not only that, you went to to discuss things that have been on my mind lately- namely that people don't see the big picture. Very strange coincidence really because you mirror a lot of my thoughts. My title was going to be 'Eric Snowden- the tip of the iceberg?'

Where I might disagree with your take on the conspiracy is that I don't think Snowden is a 'test' per say, I would be more inclined to see it as another piece in the jigsaw on the road to civil unrest. Civil unrest that is being engineered by those who seek to bring America down. Not the government, they too are pawns when you look at the big picture. I'm talking about the 'hidden hand', the real controllers who have gained control of much of the word's finances and resources on their relentless march to a world government.

Eric Snowden's revelarions are just another piece in programming the masses in the gear up to civil unrest. TV shows, video games, movies, music, the last few years has been a programming exercise, molding the collective consciousness of the masses towards the next step in the agenda.

How it pans out, or the timeline of it, I don't know but you seemingly tuned into a lot of things I was planning on discussing in my thread until I saw yours!



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:52 AM
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Sometimes a duck is just a duck.
The rest of the time the duck is a shapeshifting lizard.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:58 AM
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You want to hear that you are right? You are right. Snowden is/was a test. The sheep are ready to shear.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:41 AM
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Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by kelownascott
 


If none of you have seen the thread "Who is the Donilon family and why do they have so much influence in the white house?"

Take a look - Tom Donilon was the head of the NSA, and stepped down - He is a washington insider and has been around for decades. The NYT has a picture of him sitting next to Putin during the boston bombing fiasco - that's where he and his wife fled to - Russia - before all of the different "scandals" broke this year.


Great addition happy1! Thank you for that information I was not aware of that!

@ OP - I have to admit.. I was happy to see all the stars and flags just now when I logged back on, really made me smile that this got the attention I beleive it deserved
Thank you guys for allowing this information to compete with the non-stop "Edward Snowden Show". I didnt expect this much attention at all, nor did I expect that many peopel to agree with what Ive been feeling on the inside!


Thank everyone for their input and comments as well; we must all remember that we should not oppose eachother - the real enemy IS NOT the ats community and people you argue with online - the REAL ENEMY are the talking heads, and the alluding government/political officials.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 02:43 AM
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Bro, this is so blown up because it STARTED on a global scale as well as having global implications. He released these leaks from China. There is no way they could have squashed it. Sometimes you have to roll with the punches. This is legit. If you dont think so just wait a little while longer till he releases more and your testing the waters theory is shot to hell. He will continue until he gets the reaction he wants. Action by the people.

Beside the fact that if what you say is true they would have ANYONE other then Glenn Greenwald reporting this. That man is no fool. Read ANY of his articles.

How much sense does this logic make: Give someone a reason to kill you. If they dont, they are ready to be manipulated. Some of you get so wound up in conspiracy theories thats all you see, everywhere. Take a breath and join the cause. YOU arent doing anything about it are you? Except flipping it into a conpiracy theory while you sit at home. Wouldnt that inaction make you a sheep ready to be sheered?
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Wonderer2012
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S+F OP. What a thread


I was about to start my own thread about this very thing when I saw you beat me to it. Not only that, you went to to discuss things that have been on my mind lately- namely that people don't see the big picture. Very strange coincidence really because you mirror a lot of my thoughts. My title was going to be 'Eric Snowden- the tip of the iceberg?'

Where I might disagree with your take on the conspiracy is that I don't think Snowden is a 'test' per say, I would be more inclined to see it as another piece in the jigsaw on the road to civil unrest. Civil unrest that is being engineered by those who seek to bring America down. Not the government, they too are pawns when you look at the big picture. I'm talking about the 'hidden hand', the real controllers who have gained control of much of the word's finances and resources on their relentless march to a world government.

Eric Snowden's revelarions are just another piece in programming the masses in the gear up to civil unrest. TV shows, video games, movies, music, the last few years has been a programming exercise, molding the collective consciousness of the masses towards the next step in the agenda.

How it pans out, or the timeline of it, I don't know but you seemingly tuned into a lot of things I was planning on discussing in my thread until I saw yours!



With tht said, star for you my friend


I have had that "I was going to make the EXACT same thread" thing happen to me SO many times over the years


A lot of the members here synchronize with eachother in the "thought realm" if I may


I honestly believe the LAST test is introducing 'Martial Law'. And let me explain why I see this coming - I watched Man of Steel last week, there is a part in the movie where in the background of a scene there is a TV broadcasting news - within the news in the background the reporter (in the movie M.O.S) says something like. . "people are in chaos because Martial Law" .. Then the scene cuts out and changes. You know those subliminals in Hollywood right?

Then I was seeing a trailor for that stupid "World War Z" movie - and within the trailer it says "Martial Law has been enforced" or something simular. So the elites who fund Hollywood are deffinatly doing what they did with 9/11 - where they put subliminal messaging in the movies and tv shows for YEARS before it happend (Independance Day had a 9/11 scene and that was like 10 years before it happend?).

So I think the Snowden show is the stepping stone towards Martial Law being introduced - where all the brainwashed military, homeland security and police officers start abusing and treating the citizens like animals. If this happens - this planet will be a SICK place to live in.

Screw spying on us via internet/big brother - raiding, abusing, arresting etc for NO reasons needed; is going to be a living hell. I've seen so many videos online of cops hurting people really bad :O Its sick stuff! How have they brainwashed the police forces anyways? Must be in the food or water.. Or some chip implant sending weird signals to the brain - that would be interesting research


Check this link for a more thorough read on the potential of 'Martial Law'

There is a lot to read there, some videos of cops gone mad. . Yea the whole package
I advise anyone still following along to have a closer look - then tell me this is not all part of the plan. Snowden is ONE thing, Assage is ONE thing, Manning is ONE thing - but they are ALL CONNECTED!

They work in increments - for those who cant keep up with the information and reality of what is going on, its going to be too late. STOP WATCHING THE DRAMA SHOW! Lets get real and see the bigger picture here!



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by StrangeTimez
Bro, this is so blown up because it STARTED on a global scale as well as having global implications. He released these leaks from China. There is no way they could have squashed it. Sometimes you have to roll with the punches. This is legit. If you dont think so just wait a little while longer till he releases more and your testing the waters theory is shot to hell. He will continue until he gets the reaction he wants. Action by the people.

Beside the fact that if what you say is true they would have ANYONE other then Glenn Greenwald reporting this. That man is no fool. Read ANY of his articles.

How much sense does this logic make: Give someone a reason to kill you. If they dont, they are ready to be manipulated. Some of you get so wound up in conspiracy theories thats all you see, everywhere. Take a breath and join the cause. YOU arent doing anything about it are you? Except flipping it into a conpiracy theory while you sit at home. Wouldnt that inaction make you a sheep ready to be sheered?
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Take it easy guy.. Clearly you have your head too far in the sand, pull it out


You miss the point - there is NO proof he was even in Hong Kong, jsut his youtube video saying he was in Hong Kong - I could make a video in a downtown hotel, say Im a work for *this agency* and Im present in Hong Kong, then upload it to youtube TOO! Does it make a fact to the guy watching the video behind his computer desk? NO.

Im breathing jsut fine guy, thats why I meditate
Its my only sane-place in this dramatic reality show we call 'Earth'. It seems to me I have done more then you - I made a public thread expressing how I beleive its all a deception, you just jump on the bandwagon at the first thing that pleases your eyes and ears... and EXCUSE me guy?!? I THINK Edward Snowden made it into conspiracy NOT ME. Are you lost?

Btw I dont live in the states - Im leaving for Scandanavia in 2 weeks, then taking a trip to *Blank* (yea right NSA) .. So no Im not just sitting on my ass like a "sheep". Why are you talking down to me because I dont "join the cause" like you?
Sorry guy, but I need a little more then a youtube video and paid journalist to prove to me this isnt a front for something being set up behind the curtain


Thanks for stopping by spaceman.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 03:15 AM
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But there is proof. Glenn Greenwald interviewed him in Hong Kong. Unless he is in on it as well?
and your answer to this is to call it a conspiracy while you run. You over the top conspiracy theorist work like this. You pick choose your agenda without going over the whole story. Then neatly label anyone who contradicts your prefabricated story a paid agent who is part of it all. You need to do more then meditate brother.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 03:26 AM
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I agree with your OP, but Julian Asange broke that mould and it appears Snowdon will follow suit. No surprise really that America's enemies take whistle blowers under their wing hey.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 03:32 AM
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Originally posted by covertpanther
Take it easy guy.. Clearly you have your head too far in the sand, pull it out


You miss the point - there is NO proof he was even in Hong Kong, jsut his youtube video saying he was in Hong Kong - I could make a video in a downtown hotel, say Im a work for *this agency* and Im present in Hong Kong, then upload it to youtube TOO! Does it make a fact to the guy watching the video behind his computer desk? NO.

Im breathing jsut fine guy, thats why I meditate
Its my only sane-place in this dramatic reality show we call 'Earth'. It seems to me I have done more then you - I made a public thread expressing how I beleive its all a deception, you just jump on the bandwagon at the first thing that pleases your eyes and ears... and EXCUSE me guy?!? I THINK Edward Snowden made it into conspiracy NOT ME. Are you lost?

Btw I dont live in the states - Im leaving for Scandanavia in 2 weeks, then taking a trip to *Blank* (yea right NSA) .. So no Im not just sitting on my ass like a "sheep". Why are you talking down to me because I dont "join the cause" like you?
Sorry guy, but I need a little more then a youtube video and paid journalist to prove to me this isnt a front for something being set up behind the curtain


Thanks for stopping by spaceman.


Lol because I dont have a thread on ATS means im not doing anything about it. Your logic is consistent at least. Im on this site because there are things we need to question and I would never deny you your say. You call it jumping on the bandwagon. Everyone on your so called bandwagon else calls it reality. Its a shame, because you know there are things to be weary of out there, therefore you are more valuable then the blind majority. But when you start overreaching and painting everything with your broad conspiracy brush you do more harm then good.

And like the NSA wouldnt be able to find out where you were going. Lol.... like i said. Your logic is consistent. Not like you need a passport or visa or have your name on the plane ticket and ID to verify. The little world you live in is quite unrealistic. And if you dont live in the states what would your trip to scandinavia have to do with pro-action?? /sigh

Even if you think me some gullible sheep, I hope anything I said makes you rethink your position. We could use all the help we can get.
edit on 26-6-2013 by StrangeTimez because: Had to jab your "yea right NSA" comment.






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