Fukushima-Titrium level more than doubled in the harbor, in two weeks

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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:00 PM
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A sample collected Friday contained around 1,100 becquerels of tritium per liter, the highest level detected in seawater since the nuclear crisis at the plant started in March 2011, the utility said Monday. An official of the Nuclear Regulation Authority said groundwater containing radioactive substances may be seeping into the harbor from the plant site and there is a need to carry out a careful investigation because the data collected so far are limited.




The level was more than double that of a sample taken on June 10 in the same area. The latest announcement was made after Tepco detected high levels of radioactive tritium and strontium in groundwater from an observation well at the plant.


IRSOE EDIS

The level has more than doubled in two weeks? Obviously the situation is getting more serious very quickly.
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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:02 PM
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This is very bad. VERY bad. And only going to get worse.

I said on the day that all of this first happened that it would eventually kill Japan. It looks like that may actually happen.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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China syndrome...................we are watching the poisoned pill descend into the guts of the Island....
I keep asking this one question.....
Where IS all the core material NOW?

They already announced the container breach a while back.....How long does it ake for thecore to burn through the cement basement floor and down into the soil and rock?
The groundwater runnoff water all flows into the ocean there.....
This water should be getting MORE radioactive by the week.....
Where are the core materials of the three reactors??????



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:13 PM
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This will continue for centuries from what I understand.

However if we can develop high technology that can 'clean up' or isolate the materials, than we may have a fighting chance. People should brainstorm about that more often.

Gimme a modern Edison or Tesla please! We need their services pronto!



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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Originally posted by stirling

Where are the core materials of the three reactors??????


Probably dispersed and spread out over a large area by this point.
There are probably high concentration pockets of the materials however.

As I do not know of any major steam explosions, I would say that it is likely the groundwater streams themselves are playing a very helpful role in keeping these materials partially cooled some of the time. This statement is relative however so take it with a barrel of salt.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:27 PM
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I was always under the impression from what I have read, that if the cores themselves were to actually reach the ground water that there would be an immense explosion due to the great amount of heat the cores are giving off and the rapid enhancement from water to steam vapor that would be created.

That being the basis for most people to assume that the core themselves have not fully broken containment of the earthen material around it and reached the groundwater as we have not had a massive explosion, or huge release of steam.

That being said others have surmised that because of the initial, explosions at the site that the steam will not contain due to numerous leaks in the containment vessels themselves, so as to have a constant release outwards and never build up a high enough pressure to fully blow the lid.

These are all things I have read on blogs, science sites, which is hard to come bye now since this whole situation has become a very under the rug topic.

I am deeply saddened that one of the most major events in human history has been tried to be forgotten about, this is an ongoing disaster, one that in some way shape or form is going to change the path of human history when all said and done. The fallout I fear will be immense and we will only know in time short or long how extensive the scope of this disaster really is.

Someone help us all cause we dearly need it

SaneThinking



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:29 PM
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The waterfall of bad news from Japan never stops
I believe this is the distraction from a more dangerous threat that is talked about in secret

I could be wrong and they simply want to leak the devastating truth slowly



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:47 PM
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Jeeze i know ive heard reports of steam issuing from the ground back there a ways...anybody?


GOT IT!
link.....................www.youtube.com...
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For those with no video...the RT reporter questions a physicist about the cracks and steam comming up.
He reiterates that the containment is totally breached and the materials could be moving away from the area.....
Meaning being carried by groundwater or burning their way down i suppose.....
This video is AUG-2011!
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extra DIV



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 01:56 PM
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There wasn't a steam explosion though and that doesn't make any sense to me.

Oh and the authorities aren't really telling us anything to help us figure things out very well.

So I am assuming there is some sort of dispersion effect whereby rather than a clump of material we may have something more like a entire region where it could all be spread out. Pockets etc.

All speculation I have no issue admitting that.
But what better have I got than my own curiosity and attempt at rational alternative hypothesis?

I just don't see how their containment technology would work...concrete and metal?
I just have this feeling that all sorts of corium and slag or whatever you want to call it just kind of spread out all over the underworld beneath that facility. And that it has been dispersing and cooling /reheating due to nature itself.

But I am sure we have hot pockets amid the dispersion (pardon the pun), and cooling/rewarming phases based on various geological or atmospheric conditions. Like if it rains, the rain goes down into the soil and adds a little cooling effect, after it dries we have a reheating.

I don't really know, TEPCO never sent me any memos explaining their theoretical models for what exactly is happening here. And the Press is a joke everyone knows that. I want to know the real deal behind closed doors where the truth is spoken in whispers.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:02 PM
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Or maybe, let's presume extreme temperatures.

Maybe the corium dropped straight into the mantle?
And became one with the lava?

I am just open to all sorts of varied possibilities until someone can prove to me one is the most likely scenario.

I will trust logical explanations that human beings may offer me so that I may learn, however I do tend to live by the maxim that I do not trust authority: government, corporate, religious, etc.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:04 PM
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Originally posted by stirling
Jeeze i know ive heard reports of steam issuing from the ground back there a ways...anybody?


GOT IT!
link.....................www.youtube.com...
edit on 25-6-2013 by stirling because: (no reason given)[/editby

For those with no video...the RT reporter questions a physicist about the cracks and steam comming up.
He reiterates that the containment is totally breached and the materials could be moving away from the area.....
Meaning being carried by groundwater or burning their way down i suppose.....
This video is AUG-2011!
edit on 25-6-2013 by stirling because: (no reason given)


That is not a mega-steam-explosion though.

It is a gradual release of steam.

This fits the hypothesis of gradual dispersion and cooling/reheating through natural causation. In my humble presumption that is. extra DIV



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:10 PM
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I said it when it happened Fukushima is an ELE event. The timing could take decades but there is little (if any) doubt in my mind that between the airborne and water borne contamination destroying the edibility of fish, humans are in big big trouble.

Most people have no idea just how unhealthy their planet is becoming. Personally I have no desire to live in a dome or a space ship so I am considering myself quite lucky to be able to see the last of the natural world.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:12 PM
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Another thing, Tritium? Interesting!

I am under the influence of these witty physicists who told me that in reality we are dealing with possibly hundreds (maybe thousands?) of various isotopes that we can call "radioactive pollution" as a result of nuclear core meltdown. Many last very long periods, while others last very short or medium periods. Comparitively speaking of course.

From Tritium wiki:

Tritium (/ˈtrɪtiəm/ or /ˈtrɪʃiəm/; symbol T or 3H, also known as hydrogen-3) is a radioactive isotope of hydrogen.



Hydrogen (H) (Standard atomic mass: 1.00794 u) has three naturally occurring isotopes, sometimes denoted 1H, 2H, and 3H. Other, highly unstable nuclei (4H to 7H) have been synthesized in the laboratory but not observed in nature. The most stable radioisotope is tritium, with a half-life of 12.32 years. All heavier isotopes are synthetic and have a half-life less than a zeptosecond (10-21 second). Of these, 5H is the most stable, and the least stable isotope is 7H.[1][2]



Hydrogen is the only element that has different names for its isotopes in common use today. The 2H (or hydrogen-2) isotope is usually called deuterium, while the 3H (or hydrogen-3) isotope is usually called tritium. The symbols D and T (instead of 2H and 3H) are sometimes used for deuterium and tritium. The IUPAC states that while this use is common it is not preferred. The ordinary isotope of hydrogen, with no neutrons, is sometimes called "protium". (During the early study of radioactivity, some other heavy radioactive isotopes were given names – but such names are rarely used today).


From : Isotopes of Hydrogen

So where are the readings for the literally dozens of "polluting agents" that we could surmise came from this incident?

Giving us a reading of something that can last for decades isn't helping me much, instead I would like to see all read outs for all materials detected and concentration %. Especially short lived ones, because these can tell me the deeper story of what is happening recently (or not being detected to happen recently).



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:17 PM
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So technically speaking, it is possible this "Tritium reading", could be worthless for the most part.

This tritium could have been created near the melt down time period, and has just swirled around nature randomly and was randomly detected more recently again by guys with sensory equipment.

Who knows. TEPCO? US-Jap-UK-Fr-Gr-Rus-China???
I betcha.
They ain't talking though. Not truthfully.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Spacespider
The waterfall of bad news from Japan never stops
I believe this is the distraction from a more dangerous threat that is talked about in secret

I could be wrong and they simply want to leak the devastating truth slowly


Sigh...can't they just watch ATS more closely and send us a U2U from CIA/NSA HQ and let us in on it?

We promise we won't post more than a dozen threads about it.


None of the citizens care anyways, it won't hurt anything to just tell us. The media won't care either.
Totally harmless leak. Cmon.


Better yet since you spy on me all the time... (not towards the poster just towards snoopers)
Just call. You already know my number and what color my underwear is.
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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Spacespider

I believe this is the distraction from a more dangerous threat that is talked about in secret


Ya, makes you wonder what is being said behind closed doors



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by tinker9917

Originally posted by Spacespider

I believe this is the distraction from a more dangerous threat that is talked about in secret


Ya, makes you wonder what is being said behind closed doors


I wonder...do they even care themselves?

If they don't care...is it because they hoaxed us...or because they are really that heartless?
Do the top dogs go hide in bunkers most of the time and only come out when the air tests mostly safe? Then take decontamination showers or whatever afterwards when they return to their new homes for life, the bunkers?

I haven't a clue. Sure would be wild to find out!
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posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 03:55 PM
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Ok, I found on these articles on ENENEWS:

1. Tepco to dump groundwater from under reactor buildings into ocean (Published: April 24th) Link

2. Tepco to dump groundwater from Fukushima nuclear plant into Pacific Ocean — Trying to “avoid a total collapse” of system for handling radioactive water (Published: May 8th) Link

3. Tepco now dumping contaminated water from Fukushima plant into ocean (Published: May 9th) Link

4. Admits Fukushima plant’s groundwater is contaminated with radioactive cesium — Wanted to dump it into Pacific Ocean (Published: June 3rd) Link


What if for 2 months they've been dumping highly contaminated water into the ocean on purpose. Is TEPCO now playing stupid?



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 04:01 PM
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The thing is, if you know the end is coming and there is NOTHING you can do about it, do you tell or not? If you do tell then will there be panic and chaos. If you don't tell then the world will carry on as always and people will happily continue living their lives until they die - which we all will eventually.

If there is nothing they can do, then which is the better option? That's the dilemma. What would you do?

The worst thing is that they might not have any idea whatsoever about what is going to happen or even when. Just now they can push stuff under the rug and get away with it, and seem content with that. Once it can't be hidden any more then we will see - but how long will that be? It could be a year, 10 years, 20 years. By that time they will have something else to blame the effects on - the DU used over the world in conflicts, the rubbish we bury, the sun, the weather etc. and then it can be used as a means to some other agenda thy have thought up.

Do they care? Who knows.
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posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 01:15 AM
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Another issue that will continue to get worse while it gets covered up and everyone gets palmed off with 'this isn't that bad, we can fix it!' excuse.
It's the people of the country I feel sorry for, their own government doesn't seem to care that there are people and kids getting sick from this, it's horrible.




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