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Sergio Focardi is Dead. (Rossi & eCat)

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posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 06:06 PM
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Andrea Rossi
June 22nd, 2013 at 2:46 AM
SERGIO FOCARDI, PROF. EMERITUS OF THE UNIVERSITY OF BOLOGNA, IS DEAD . I RECEIVED THE NEW FROM ITALY TODAY AT 3 A.M., USA EASTERN TIME, FEW MINUTES AGO.


I just noticed this today. Focardi, one of the very few people trying to lend weight to the Rossi (eCat) saga with his name and reputation (or that of which remained thereafter) has passed away. I found it interesting that Rossi, on his blog, cited Focardi had an illness. Which I'm curious if that affected his decision to join the eCat story to begin with. Or did he get diagnosed along the way?


Now, after a long period of illness, that obviously all his friends have taken secret to respect his privacy, he ceased to suffer and starts a new duty for God under anothe form of life. I am sure he will continue to look after my work from where he is now.

See you soon, my great Friend and Master Sergio! I will never forget our work together and that day in the Brasimone Nuclear facility.
Yours Andrea Rossi


www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com...-723229




posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 06:14 PM
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A longstanding illness does not mean that foul play can be completely removed. People are assassinated in many different ways, to suit the situation.
When you want someone to slowly pass, you poison them slowly.
When you want someone to quickly pass, you have their car explode in the middle of a street.

Conspiracy aside, RIP to another paragon of alternative energy.
How far back could this set the device? What negative impact if any could be caused by his death?



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 06:38 PM
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Originally posted by ThinkingCap
A longstanding illness does not mean that foul play can be completely removed. People are assassinated in many different ways, to suit the situation.
When you want someone to slowly pass, you poison them slowly.
When you want someone to quickly pass, you have their car explode in the middle of a street.

Conspiracy aside, RIP to another paragon of alternative energy.
How far back could this set the device? What negative impact if any could be caused by his death?


This will not affect the development of the ECat. Sergio was a physicist of great skill and was interested in the theory behind LENR. Development is being done by engineers who don't worry about why it works, just input and output.



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 07:21 PM
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Originally posted by pteridine
Development is being done by engineers who don't worry about why it works, just input and output.


Thats the way forward



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 07:47 PM
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Originally posted by ThinkingCap
A longstanding illness does not mean that foul play can be completely removed. People are assassinated in many different ways, to suit the situation.


It can be used in either context.

Some might say he was deliberately given some illness to silence him and his energy efforts, yet one could argue he was sick to begin with and that's why he chose to be part of the scam.

Really doesn't have any importance unless more is known, or something is uncovered to be honest.



posted on Jun, 24 2013 @ 09:57 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
It can be used in either context.

Some might say he was deliberately given some illness to silence him and his energy efforts, yet one could argue he was sick to begin with and that's why he chose to be part of the scam.


Uh-huh, you're right no matter what, perfect logic.


Originally posted by VoidHawk

Originally posted by pteridine
Development is being done by engineers who don't worry about why it works, just input and output.


Thats the way forward


Ahh, yes, just like how every time my car breaks I make sure to take it to the guy who doesn't know how cars work to get it fixed. Psh, expertise, what do decades of experience in a topic count for, anyway? Those hundreds of thousands of nuclear physicists who think this stuff is complete utter nonsense obviously don't know anything.

Anyway, my point in coming here was to mention--not that anyone will ever listen--that the "journal" you link to is not an actual scientific journal. Having "journal" in your name and a website doesn't make you a real journal.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 12:58 AM
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Uh-huh, you're right no matter what, perfect logic.


 


It's not a matter of right or wrong, I was outlining that it is not a sufficient fact to determine anything.

Oh, I understand your confusion, where you misquoted me by cutting off the other half of my quote, here... I will help you out:




Really doesn't have any importance unless more is known, or something is uncovered to be honest.




posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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Sad News, B.

I believe even with his loss, his innovative designs continue to get the support that it needs, and those that were around him continue his research. We need viable energy, and not the stuff we pump from the ground.



S&F



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by Moduli
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Those hundreds of thousands of nuclear physicists who think this stuff is complete utter nonsense obviously don't know anything.
...

I am wondering what happened to:

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Richard P. Feynman.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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Maybe the lies of Ecat were too much for him to live with.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 08:24 AM
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Originally posted by Moduli

Originally posted by pteridine
Development is being done by engineers who don't worry about why it works, just input and output.


Ahh, yes, just like how every time my car breaks I make sure to take it to the guy who doesn't know how cars work to get it fixed. Psh, expertise, what do decades of experience in a topic count for, anyway? Those hundreds of thousands of nuclear physicists who think this stuff is complete utter nonsense obviously don't know anything.

Anyway, my point in coming here was to mention--not that anyone will ever listen--that the "journal" you link to is not an actual scientific journal. Having "journal" in your name and a website doesn't make you a real journal.


Those guys don't need to know theory to fix your car, just input and output. Many of those physicists are waiting for a level of proof that they are comfortable with before they risk their reputations. Their decades of experience are in entirely different areas so what would they know about this phenomenon? There is a mob rule that is tough to stand up against and challenging dogma is heretical. Heretics have their careers burned. Some grand inquisitors, like Garwin, don't want it to work or they will have to pretend that they never said what they said about it. Of course, all will weasel and keep their large egos intact but the chance that the pecking order will be redistributed scares those at the top.

As to the Journal, everyone who has been following this knows that it is Rossi's blog so your fears are unfounded.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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Anyway, my point in coming here was to mention--not that anyone will ever listen--that the "journal" you link to is not an actual scientific journal. Having "journal" in your name and a website doesn't make you a real journal.


 


Nearly everyone here has followed the Rossi story. (Including you). The blog (which he calls journal) is irrelevant in this thread. I was only talking about the death of Focardi, which, was released via the blog (which he calls journal). We all know he named his blog a journal to appear more legitimate, had a dead board member on it, and was rejected from legitimate journals.

This isn't so much about Rossi and Focardi's body of work, as it is about one of them passing on.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by pteridine
Those guys don't need to know theory to fix your car, just input and output.


Nothing about that makes any sense. The people who fix my car need to know how my car works. Otherwise they're just randomly attaching things together and hoping it works out okay (which is retarded and would indicate being completely incompetent, which goes without saying).



Many of those physicists are waiting for a level of proof that they are comfortable with before they risk their reputations.


Yes, a level of proof known as "any."



There is a mob rule that is tough to stand up against and challenging dogma is heretical. Heretics have their careers burned.


I've said this a million times, and I'm sure will say it a million more, but we literally hand out prizes in science for doing remarkable, unexpected new things. No scientist out there is afraid of publishing new ideas. In fact, most scientists only publish new ideas. That's, like, the whole point of being a research scientist...



As to the Journal, everyone who has been following this knows that it is Rossi's blog so your fears are unfounded.


Right, and it adds to the credibility to name things as if they were something more credible than they really are. That's why all my papers have their author listed, instead of as "Moduli," as
The living God-Emperor of String Theory, his Highness, Moduli XXVII
That way people will really know I'm really good.



posted on Jun, 25 2013 @ 09:45 PM
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Originally posted by Moduli

Originally posted by pteridine
Those guys don't need to know theory to fix your car, just input and output.


Nothing about that makes any sense. The people who fix my car need to know how my car works. Otherwise they're just randomly attaching things together and hoping it works out okay (which is retarded and would indicate being completely incompetent, which goes without saying).



Many of those physicists are waiting for a level of proof that they are comfortable with before they risk their reputations.


Yes, a level of proof known as "any."



There is a mob rule that is tough to stand up against and challenging dogma is heretical. Heretics have their careers burned.


I've said this a million times, and I'm sure will say it a million more, but we literally hand out prizes in science for doing remarkable, unexpected new things. No scientist out there is afraid of publishing new ideas. In fact, most scientists only publish new ideas. That's, like, the whole point of being a research scientist...



As to the Journal, everyone who has been following this knows that it is Rossi's blog so your fears are unfounded.



The people who fix your car don't do fluid dynamic calculations for the combustion of the fuel. They don't do science, they do practical engineering. They don't need to know the stoichiometry of combustion, only what to do when an injector is clogged.
This may be a shock to you but Rossi considers himself an 'ingegnere' and would not publish something when he plans to produce a product. Companies, in general, do not publish papers in the open literature so don't expect Rossi to put this in 'Science.'



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 12:57 AM
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This may be a shock to you but Rossi considers himself an 'ingegnere' and would not publish something when he plans to produce a product.

 


Ironically, Rossi's ingegnere-ing education comes from a diploma mill. While his only legitimate education comes as a philosophy of science degree.




posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
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This may be a shock to you but Rossi considers himself an 'ingegnere' and would not publish something when he plans to produce a product.

 


Ironically, Rossi's ingegnere-ing education comes from a diploma mill. While his only legitimate education comes as a philosophy of science degree.



That is true but he is a self taught engineer and that is how he thinks of himself. You will not see a paper in a journal describing the details of his invention. Focardi would have provided the theory.



posted on Jun, 26 2013 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by boncho
reply to post by pteridine


This may be a shock to you but Rossi considers himself an 'ingegnere' and would not publish something when he plans to produce a product.

 


Ironically, Rossi's ingegnere-ing education comes from a diploma mill. While his only legitimate education comes as a philosophy of science degree.



oh my gosh you are right!!!! how silly of any of us to think that someone with such a low standing in the acedemic world could ever stumble upon something revolutionary in his endeavors... why it is almost as crazy as a college drop out starting the largest computer company of the twentieth century or two bicycle mechanics from dayton ohio building the first airplane. i mean now that would be crazy!

history is chock full of inventions that occured by those doing instead of those pontificating why or how. the awesome thing is that people are starting to report on witnessing more and more succesful replications of expirements in the field. the most most recent important one was viewed by Dr. Kim of Purdue in Canada.

i am eagerly awaiting NI week this year.



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 12:16 AM
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why it is almost as crazy as a college drop out starting the largest computer company of the twentieth century or two bicycle mechanics from dayton ohio building the first airplane

 


Did they also go to jail for fraudulent business practices, sell toxic waste as fuel, cause an environmental disaster, fake a "peer reviewed" journal with a dead person on the board, lie about nuclear processes until faced with the Florida commission, get their diploma from a diploma mill... etc?

Or they actually built something that worked. Ah...



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 07:15 AM
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Originally posted by boncho
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why it is almost as crazy as a college drop out starting the largest computer company of the twentieth century or two bicycle mechanics from dayton ohio building the first airplane

 


Did they also go to jail for fraudulent business practices, sell toxic waste as fuel, cause an environmental disaster, fake a "peer reviewed" journal with a dead person on the board, lie about nuclear processes until faced with the Florida commission, get their diploma from a diploma mill... etc?

Or they actually built something that worked. Ah...


ah my good friend that really is the key here. did they build something that works. the three biggest a** holes i have ever met i would say were also the three biggest geniuses. unfortanely someone being a good person does not equate to their genius. would i believe rossi, and did i believe rossi? no but do i believe in the posiblity of lenr yes. do i trust certain folks that have dedicated their lives to lenr research and theory yes. has the device and rossi convinced them that he has stumbled on a reaction that creates more energy then can be explained away by a chemical reaction yes. you really should look into joining the vortex mailing list where some of the greatest minds in the lenr field discuss events and theories on a daily basis.

joe



posted on Jun, 27 2013 @ 10:06 AM
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you really should look into joining the vortex mailing list where some of the greatest minds in the lenr field discuss events and theories on a daily basis.

 


I've been reading that a couple years now.

When they started kicking off anyone who said anything critical of Rossi it became a circle jerk of back patters.






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