Originally posted by smyleegrl
Let me explain. The average American is apathetic....why? Because he/she has access to mind-numbing entertainment. We care more about Xbox versus
Playstation than we do about Snowden. In fact, I submit that the new American dream is, for many people, simply a hunt for the next form of
entertainment. Thus the obsession with Hollywood stars, pop culture, etc. These folks are so consumed with consumerism that they can't be bothered
with national scandals and world events.....who cares if the NSA spies on folks as long as the latest version of Halo is about to be
I think you're spot on with your assessment when it comes to the majority.
But, I also think there is a generation of opinionated, political and active young people out there willing to do something. We've seen it in the
It's never an entire nation rising up in revolution, it's a group within it. In all the examples you cite, there were millions who didn't get
involved, millions of women and children who were kept out of the fight, and millions of citizens who were more interested in harvesting their crop to
support their family than taking up arms.
There has never been an instance where every citizen, and probably not even a majority, are engaged in revolution.
In Iceland, it took perhaps a few thousand people, in a population of more than 300,000. They still had the support of a massive number of inactive
and distracted citizens, and they won peacefully and repaired their government and their country.
I guess I go back and forth on this. Sometimes I think the population is so apathetic and uneducated they really don't care in any number big enough
to make a difference. But then I think about the Occupy movement, and the fact that there were thousands protesting across the US and millions around
That gives me hope that there are a lot of people out there willing to stand up and fight back.
You know what I think will happen? We'll see a resurgence of the Occupy movement this year, and it'll be bigger and cover the USA, with Snowden and
Manning as its icons. I think there will be a movement to hold government to account.
The only reason I think this, is because I believe there is more to come. I think we are going to see evidence that politicians, journalists and
judges have been targeted for blackmail or threatened by the NSA/Obama regime. And the moment that happens, all bets are off. I also think it's
likely that there are other whistle blowers ready to make their move with the support of WikiLeaks, and that plenty of other dark and dirty secrets
are possibly going to be revealed by others.
Another reason why I think this will be bigger, is that both sides can come together to fight a common enemy. Both Republicans and Democrats are
seemingly in agreement on the whole, both sides have a common interest here, and both could be capable of putting their traditional distractions aside
to focus on this one issue.
There are two things that I will be looking for in any movement... first, it needs to be big enough to be obvious. It's not good enough to do what
they did last time and end up desperate for attention in the media. There needs to be a massive internet campaign, a massive protest march, MLK style
on the Mall, or otherwise in the public's face. It has to be a protest that no media outlet can ignore without discrediting themselves in the eyes of
The BBC has lost credibility with millions of Brits in the last couple of weeks, for their refusal in the beginning to even mention Snowden and the
NSA, and that has become even more prominent now that they are also ignoring the story of GCHQ.
The other thing I'll be looking for in a protest is the response of Government. I hate to say it, but there needs to be a violent backlash from
police to get the headlines. Remember Occupy NY and the girls being maced by the NYPD? Remember the young man almost killed by a riot cop in Oakland?
Millions around the net got angry, and many more joined the protest. A violent state action can solidify a movement and help it to grow.
We're in for some interesting times, and I think you should look more toward the youth out there and movements like Occupy to stop you feeling so
disheartened and helpless