Originally posted by samuel1990
If you have nothing to add to this thread why post?
You are clearly not spiritually ready for this so you reject it.
Please take you're negative vibes elsewhere.
Originally posted by Optimisplanet
You must be one of those atheists that deny any sort of happenings that is not considered ''normal''
Id like to repeat the AboveTopSecret Slogan
Deny Ignorance maybe should look into it. Hey just sayin
Originally posted by peashooter
reply to post by Nevertheless
Don't insult something you don't understandedit on 24-6-2013 by peashooter because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Optimisplanet
reply to post by Nevertheless[. I posted this thread to discuss astral projection being demonic or not and you are just plain denying the existence of it wow.
It like someone posting a question about if one likes bread and someone saying bread doesnt exist see my point here.
Why don't you prove to us that spirits don't exist.
Just because you don believe In something doesn't really giveyou the right to put down others views
The Christian author Larry Huggins astral projected and he found his astral body in hell. If you read the book "Prepare for War" by Dr. Rebecca Brown, there is a special demon that faclitates astral projection. This is really getting in the realm of the spirit or occult illegally and there could be repercussions. This practice also accelerates the aging process and it is known by Lamas that astral chord could be severed. This is also a condemed occult practice (Deuteronomy 18:10). Exposing Astral Projection
In the Brotherhood (Satanism) the most important attraction for witches and warlocks is the ability to learn how to astral project. Sex and power is what makes most people join Satanist covens. It is by far their biggest drawing card.
ASTRAL PROJECTION AND ASTRAL SEX
zechariah14v7 4 months ago
Bruce Allen gave an account of a similar type of portal, and even characterized it as a kind of escape portal. he was transrelocated to an Aussie city. he did not try to take anything back with him, but when he approached the door that opened to the city streets, he was told not to, then was told to go back.
RobotRaptor12 1 month ago
There is a book called 'Gazing Into Glory' by Bruce Allen and he teaches how to see into the realm of the spirit and how to translocate. Look him up on youtube with Sid Roth and type 'translation by faith' in google and you will find him teaching in crossworld or something
Originally posted by Optimisplanet
Something tells me it is against God's Will.
"You know, everyday I get millions of complaints about this world. All the greed and selfishness poverty, starvation, the wars, the murders, the abuse of children. I hardly recognize this place anymore. It bears so literal resemblance to the garden that I created for you, but it’s not hell, Nick.
Even now, there’s sunshine on a spring day, there’s a starry night and a desert sky, there’s a gentle breeze on a summer afternoon and the smell of flowers, the song of birds, There’s even people who are willing to lend a helping hand to the helpless and there’s love Nick, there’s still love."
Jesus: "You wouldn't have anything if I hadn't put a stone in your path.
Jesus: July 4th, 1974, Eldorquin Quarry. You and your buddies were racing up the hill to dive in. You took a shortcut through the bushes and you hit your foot on a stone just before you dove.
Nick: Yeah. Yeah. It threw my footing off. Ruined my dive. Caused me to hit an underwater rock that broke my hand in two places. I could have been a receiver.
Jesus: If you hadn't tripped over that stone, Nick, you would have hit your head on that rock. You would have died at 14 years old. But your grandmother's prayers were ringing in my ear. I put that stone in your path."
The Bible certainly describes inexplicable and wonderful experiences given to the saints from time to time. Paul described an experience and vision that the Lord blessed him to have in II Corinthians 12:1-10, though he expressed uncertainty whether it was “in the body” or “out of the body”. Acts chapter 2 records the coming down of the Holy Ghost promised to the church, which the prophet Joel described as “….your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams…”
One may be tempted to defend dabbling with astral projection and transcendental meditation by pointing to such scriptures. However, these are not descriptions of ethereal cosmic visions arising from spectral energy or some other such drivel. They are poignant, directed visions and experiences sent directly from the Lord to his saints. Each was for a distinct reason and/or conveyed specific messages. The Holy Ghost experience, for example, is provided to the church to relay a most important message to each who is blessed to experience it – “At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you” (John 14:20). These experiences are far from a hypnotically or drug induced collection of enigmatic visions left open to whatever interpretation one decides to hang on them!
Is this to say that we are to deny subconscious existence and experience? Absolutely not. Things such as hypnosis and subliminal imagery are indeed effective in producing behavioral change. However, just because something exists and proves effective doesn’t mean it should be automatically considered useful and wholesome.
First, consider that the Bible, the Christian’s guide and light, never encourages the elect of God to “tap into your inner man” or any such thing. What are we encouraged to do to become whole (which is often the stated reason for transcendental meditation)? God’s word tells us that He gave gifts unto men “for the perfecting of the saints…for the edifying of the body of Christ”. What are these? “And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers” (Ephesians 4:11-12). Also, we have the Bible – “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” These are the maturing spiritual gifts God gave us. No gurus or Indian medicine men needed according to God. Just study his word, hear his preaching, and be perfected, or full-grown.
The focus of the Christian’s experience should not be to use the subconscious to transform the conscious mind, but vice-versa. Every focus of teaching to the saints is to use that which is consciously learned and performed to affect the whole of the man, subconscious mind included. One such admonition can be found in Romans 12:2 – “And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.” Some say you have to become one with nature or the universe. The Bible’s reply? No, get your mind off the world (this cursed earth, universe, and the sinful economy embodied therein) and into those things which are good, acceptable, perfect, and according to the will of God. How does a child of God begin to transform his mind? Well, verse 3 gives the answer - use that mind to think the right ways! “For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.” Be humble. Be sober. Don’t be looking for a zebra when you ought to be seeing a horse. Don’t try to grow in grace by some kooky Eastern religious mantras or techniques. It won’t work. Simply use your conscious mind to learn of the Lord and walk in humility, hence the transformation begins and continues.
You see? The teaching of the Creator is that happiness and completion will be found in consciously acting, not trying to tap into the subconscious mind: “But whoso looketh into the perfect law of liberty, and continueth therein, he being not a forgetful hearer, but a doer of the work" jeremysarber.com...