reply to post by Deetermined
So, ultimately Nebuchadnezzer and Alexander the Great completed the prophecy.
God made a prophecy that Nebuchadnezzar would destroy Tyre, and another that he would destroy Egypt. Nebuchadnezzar failed to do either of those
So then God made a different prophecy that someone
would destroy Tyre.
Right, because that's how prophecy works.
Alexander and Nebuchadnezzar also don't count as "many nations", no matter how you want to shift around those goal posts.
Here's a small history lesson for you.
Nebuchadnezzar was a king during the Old Babylonian Kingdom, ruling around 1100 BC. His attempt to sack Tyre occurred, and failed, during that
The city-state of Babylon, under the auspices of Nabonidus, a Chaldean king, was then attacked by the Persian conqueror Cyrus the Great somewhere
around 530 BC. Cyrus defeated Nabonidus, and Babylon was taken over by the Persians.
800 years later, around 350 AD, Alexander the Great was born, midway through his life he lead his massive military campaigns.
Nebuchadnezzar and Alexander the Great only count as contemporaries attacking Tyre as "many nations" if you discard the 1500 years which exist
between the two, and the fact that one nation (Babylonia) was no longer a nation during the other's rule.
Further, if it took your God more than 1500 years to sack a city, and He had to do it through His own enemies (read that as: not the Jews), then He
didn't actually do it, but is just claiming the credit for what other cultures and their gods accomplished. Your God is a glory-hog who tries to take
responsibility for the work of others when it suits him, but blames them when it doesn't.
What a wonderful figure to attach yourself to.
As for the destruction of Egypt prophecy, I consider this to be another twofold prophecy. Though indeed some of the details were fulfilled,
Wait. Hold up.
Some of the details
? Why not all of the details
Nebuchadnezzar was defeated in his only attempt to conquer Egypt.
Egypt has never been a "desolate waste" during it's more than 6000 year existence.
There has never been a time when people did not walk through Egypt.
The surrounding countries were never also desolate.
A forty-year period of desolation and waste never occurred in Egypt.
And, finally, the Egyptian people were never scattered. Every invading force left them in Egypt
, and instead marveled at their own culture.
When the Egypt finally did fall (to Muslim invasion) the Egyptians weren't scattered to other nations. They were erased as an ethnicity.
Further, Egypt does not count as the Middle East. Egypt is part of Africa, and Africa is its own subcontinent, and cultural location. The Middle East
(or subcontinent of Western Asia) begins East of the desert.
Again, failed prophecy.
~ Wandering Scribe