"Amnesty Bill" seals fate of young Black Americans.

reply to post by kimish


Yes, but this OP is mostly about the "Young" Black Americans.

I agree some of the older black folks are far beyond fixing.

I am talking mostly about the young bright eyed kid that just needs a mentor.

These kids don't want to get in the "Game" and it should not be their Manifest Destiny.

reply to post by kimish


Did you read mine? You're pretty much validating my point, that it's a cultural thing. The culture you're brought up in and your social setting will determine your motivations. It's not a racial issue because there are hardworking and successful black men and women out there. Many of the black kids I went to college with actually put more time and work into their studies than the dumb, drunk, white "bros" and sluts who were just there to party and get a communications degree.

reply to post by whyamIhere


It is very hard for under privilege young adults to get off the system once their parents have been in it for generations.

I live in a very high unemployment and poverty area, no I am not by any means in the poverty line, but I worked within the school system and I can tell how this children once within the system can never get out of the system.

Is like the government itself has created a revolving vicious cycle that do not offer any hopes for those that wants to exceed, only those that are well enough from working families get to have the chance to get out.

The rest are ignored by the system.

Yeah well I think if this corrupt illegal bill passes we are going to see every militia group stand up and kick these clowns out of D.C. and America for good. This will definitely be the straw to brake the Camels back. Normal intelligent Patriotic Americans have had it with D.C.

Everyone with half a brain can see that Obama has one mission, that is to destroy this nation from within for his Arab nation so we cant tell anyone what to do anymore. He will go beyond that though and get us into a war with Russia and China. To him everyone who is not part of his Islamic Caliphate needs to be bled.

Originally posted by marg6043
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

It is very hard for under privilege young adults to get off the system once their parents have been in it for generations.

I live in a very high unemployment and poverty area, no I am not by any means in the poverty line, but I worked within the school system and I can tell how this children once within the system can never get out of the system.

Is like the government itself has created a revolving vicious cycle that do not offer any hopes for those that wants to exceed, only those that are well enough from working families get to have the chance to get out.

The rest are ignored by the system.

You are right Marg...

When you look in these kids eyes and know their destiny.

It seems like a great waste of humanity.

without the influx of 20-30 million Mexicans & Latin Americans into the USA..... the Nation would continue to Age with not enough New-Borns to help fund the future needs of Social Security


its all about the demographics of an aging population....the USA is desperate to not become like Japan --- and be in a constant and headlong decline into obscurity with too many old pensioners around and no productive workforce (AKA military trainees) available to man the battle stations for the next several banker war operations


millions of new bodies coming in will put tremendous pressures on the civil authorities & police as a "no-jobs economy" creates the fertile ground for tremendous increases in shoplifting, home invasions and the like

And as the thread touches upon.... the low wage jobs that are presently done by existing minorities & disadvantaged will be overtaken by the new flood of low-skill/ workers intent on getting even less pay & fewer hours than the current minirity workforce... so the high school dropout black, young adult will be replaced by the Amnesty workforce... i guess the displaced workers can join the Øbama Brown-Shirts of the Action America positions


when this Amnesty kicks in and the Øbama--Care Death Panels kicks in.... then there will begin the generational long re-making-of-America... aka Øbama's Transformation of Amerika , instilled into this Progressive by his puppet-master Globalist Elites..... and he got bought off cheap with only a Nobel Peace Prize award...

we are all being sold-down-the-river.... Amnesty is just one small piece of the puzzle that is given too much attention IMHO

reply to post by HanzHenry

Ya the whole thing is stupid. Most of them have more kids in tow and have the cars and everything else which most people who live and work here could not afford. A great majority can not even afford to start a family, and have been living and working in the states for generations, the thought alone of anything more then 1 kid is like an economic black hole. In general different groups stick with each other, I seen just as many black kids or Mexican kids who were not that bad off, in fact lots are not doing all that bad at all, and on top of it they get all kinds of free perks.

But I have also seen those who had it bad, or worse its a give or take type of thing. A lot if not everything you see coming down the wire however is just plain bull#. And if your white, well there is a lot of bull# out there and propaganda which has been going on for so long that people believe its real without a second thought. But ya if your white, well technically speaking you are the minority not only in most parts of town, but world wide no for real look it up or take a trip through your town. Who know why they call other people "minorities" when that is not the case and never really was. Its all about control and money really, politicians government the media and everything else are no exemption.

Just look at the numbers, and even those are skewed so you have to look real close. In all its like the late great sage George Carlin said...Prepare your kids in life for all the bull# that will be coming there way, bull# is the glue that holds our society together.

I read these threads in despair. Immigration is bad, its killing the people already on the bottom but then i think of what the west has done to developing countries and its no wonder they want to leave so desperately.

Mass immigration is definitely organised by governments - Its in their interest to keep people fighting over jobs.

reply to post by Night Star


yes they don't want low paying jobs they want yours . my country has lots of as they call them foreign workers they pay them exactly the same as me 15 plus an hour it is sad to see because in my community the youth coming out of high school and college are ignored by corporations who if they can't find enough illegals to work for them will actually send recruiters to villages in mexico. by the way my town is nowhere near mexico it lies on the east coast. my girl has to work in crappy fast food jobs because the factory jobs are all being filled by no skilled illiterate to english foreign workers. and who is this i.c.e. you refer everybody knows they only go after illegal downloaders.

Something else to consider....

When will the refugees from Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria etc begin to arrive? Remember the tremendous influx of Vietnamese that came to America after "Nam"? The Vietnamese adapted well to American culture; do you think the Arabs/ME people, will fare as well.

England is in turmoil; can we expect the same?

Illegal Mexicans will be looked upon as a blessing.

Apologies for the fact I never got past the title.
""Amnesty Bill" seals fate of young Black Americans"

When it should read,"Amnesty Bill" seals fate of young Americans"

Its stories like these that have to further the notion that we arent all just PEOPLE.
Nope,gotta be white,black,hispanic,etc.

It just keeps the sterotypes alive,and keeps dividing everyone.

My 2 cents.
~Cheers~

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by Ghost375
Except most of the illegal immigrants are already working....

So deport them and let AMERICANS take the jobs.

yeh that won't cost any money. not to mention whats stopping them from coming back? stop giving these people benefits, thats the first step. the next step should be taken from there.

Originally posted by buster2010

Originally posted by DarthMuerte

Originally posted by Ghost375
Except most of the illegal immigrants are already working....

So deport them and let AMERICANS take the jobs.

A lot of these jobs Americans won't accept. Many companies want to pay slave wages and Americans want a good paying job.

Yes, its true they want to pay slave wages, and the reason they are able to do so is because they are able to exploit immigrant labor who will work for that wage. But if the labor pool tightens they wont find it so easy. The only way to do that is to stop allowing the import of cheap labor (thats what illegal immigration is in essence) and then at some point wages will be forced to go up.

Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by whyamIhere

 

Republicans and democrats, all are in on the plan.

Funny, but in a strange way I agree with you. I have always suspected the communists in China and Russia "embraced" capitalism to allow the Wall st sociopaths, hard line corporatists and oligarchs to run mad outsourcing all the jobs and destroying all the western economies with their greed. The train wreck that would be left would be much more conducive to promoting some sort of socialism. The communists have never had a better friend than the top one percent of this country and the banksters. Our economic system no longer operates under the rule of law, and this is EXACTLY what those groups would benefit from.

reply to post by openminded2011


Sadly the importation of cheap labor will not stop, amnesty will only cause more people into the work force that will not fall any longer for the cheap labor as an American citizen, so when the job is not there available within the minimum wage pool they can file for social services and welfare (somebody need to feed the increasing families).

Still the influx of illegals will not stop, the influx right now is about 1 million illegals yearly that is not going to stop at all.

So as the new American citizens join the nations work force looking for jobs that will no be there it will be more to fill out the slave under paid jobs that most will be leaving behind.

The cycle will keep going on and on and on, until the next amnesty bill.

Im a little confused over the description...Black or African American...What does that mean?

Is a black person a born in the USA person of African Slave Heritage?
" " " have dark skin?

Is an Indian person (real one) a black person?

Is an African American a White person born in South Africa or Zimbarbway and migrated to the USA?

Or a Caribbean/Jamaican African descent person Migrated to the USA?

I think they are a bit loose on the meaning of a "Black or African American" in this day and age.

How can Obama be a black person, when he is half White?

Do people with English names (most of you) call yourselves "English American" or British American?

Same with "Italian Americans", "Jewish Americans" etc etc.

Why isnt everybody just ...Americans?

I work with illegals! Because im lucky enough to have one of those so called jobs nobody wants! B.s. If this bill passes it will be the final nail in the coffin of this country. They only care about themselves,there country,and if the #!&$ hit the fan they would be the first to run! Im here to tell you that amnesty is the end. You will get laid off from your factory job in a heartbeat. I promiss you this bill is bad news. It opens the door to cheap labor all over the board so we can compete! I could go on all night.

reply to post by whyamIhere


Yowwwzaa!! I thought this was going to be a bad joke as I read it, but now that I finished reading the OP, I wish it had been. That was the most racist thing i've read or heard in 15 years! - and I was briefly in Texas shortly after 9/11.

I'm not talking about not understanding why amnesty for illegal immigrants would absolutely not have a positive effect on job availability for unskilled workers, but WOULD shrink the economy dramatically, making jobs more difficult for all people to obtain ("Even White people!" - as a clueless, extremely-racist-without-realizing-it person would say.) i'm referring to the disgusting level of disrespect spewed toward African Americans, and the demonstration of a mindset believing A) Black people are can't get jobs, B) and can't have a two-parent household because they can't get jobs, C) and so, because it is easier to have one-parent in a household (huh?!) D) when you're just a lowly, unskilled Black parent (is that "All" of "those people" or just "most" in your mind?) E) you just carry on and raise the child yourself, even though he or she will become a criminal.

I mean, seriously, read your opening post, its so ridiculously over-the-top full of ignorance and racism, it is truly disgusting. I'm glad there is free speech in the US, I just wish people who would say such things as this weren't US citizens.

Originally posted by thegreatone68
I work with illegals! Because im lucky enough to have one of those so called jobs nobody wants! B.s. If this bill passes it will be the final nail in the coffin of this country. They only care about themselves,there country,and if the #!&$ hit the fan they would be the first to run! Im here to tell you that amnesty is the end. You will get laid off from your factory job in a heartbeat. I promiss you this bill is bad news. It opens the door to cheap labor all over the board so we can compete! I could go on all night.

Just a little tip, I'm not 100% certain, but I'm fairly sure you could be looking at a handsome payday for turning the company you work for in for employing illegal aliens, and I'm also pretty sure (though it probably wouldn't happen) that you coukd get in trouble with the law for not reporting the crime.

I AM however, ENTIRELY sure that if people would report these things, rather than aiding and abetting by ignoring and protecting, it would quickly become far more trouble than it is worth to employ illegal aliens. People who complain about it while holding back information which could help to put an end to the employment of illegals are among the world's greatest living, breathing examples of hypocrisy. Why don't you do something about it? Do you expect authorities to just storm every business without just cause, in hopes of catching companies with illegal workers? Do something, or realize you're just one of the many people the corporate world depends on to help them keep their cheap, illegal-alien workforce padding their profits.

Nevermind