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Indefinite Surveillance: Say Hello to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2014

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posted on Jun, 21 2013 @ 11:58 PM
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Yawns at the current rulership





posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:14 AM
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This is true in my town every year when people light off fireworks. It's illegal but everyone does it.


Bread and wine my friend.

Keeps people amused "Lookit da pretty lights" doesn't it.

You have to allow people their games and substances in order to keep them under control right?

If you think the little fire works they ALLOW is a display of rights....I feel truly sorry.

You forgot one thing...they can come in, confiscate and arrest those fire works watchers and perpetrators anytime they choose because it is illegal. Why do you think they don't?

Keeps people amused and calm...distracted. "Oh yeah...We are bad Ass!!!!!"

Truly pathetic.

Peace



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:29 AM
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What's pathetic is people so blinded by their fear of the government boogeyman they can't see the forest through the trees. There's bigger things at stake then some government analyst checking how much porn you watch, who you're sexting with, and what you ate for dinner.

Ever wonder why they don't have an army of analysts to spy on 300 million of us? Because we aren't the targets they're after. There's much bigger things at play, all the fear is part of the obfuscation to keep the real targets blind of the end goal.

Everything isn't what it seems, including Snowden and Assanage. It's all part of something much bigger.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:37 AM
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
reply to post by jude11
 


What's pathetic is people so blinded by their fear of the government boogeyman they can't see the forest through the trees. There's bigger things at stake then some government analyst checking how much porn you watch, who you're sexting with, and what you ate for dinner.

Ever wonder why they don't have an army of analysts to spy on 300 million of us? Because we aren't the targets they're after. There's much bigger things at play, all the fear is part of the obfuscation to keep the real targets blind of the end goal.

Everything isn't what it seems, including Snowden and Assanage. It's all part of something much bigger.



What IS it then?

gotta linky?



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:46 AM
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No links but it's big. It can be figured out from things going on if you pay attention. It doesn't just involve this side of the globe though and it's not about the information but where that information may be going and how. There's been a few bread crumbs dropped in the last 6 or 7 year's if you find them and follow them you'll eventually see the whole picture.

Just know you don't want what they're trying to prevent to happen.

Here's the only clue I'll give, a movie was made and it had to be changed because it was too close to the truth, too soon to be public.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
reply to post by stirling
 


No links but it's big. It can be figured out from things going on if you pay attention. It doesn't just involve this side of the globe though and it's not about the information but where that information may be going and how. There's been a few bread crumbs dropped in the last 6 or 7 year's if you find them and follow them you'll eventually see the whole picture.

Just know you don't want what they're trying to prevent to happen.

Here's the only clue I'll give, a movie was made and it had to be changed because it was too close to the truth, too soon to be public.

According to your post, you know a lot of crucial information that could impact us all. No offense, but your post sounds like a game to find the answer. But you've already done that, right? Can't you just say it? Are you scared for your safety if divulge what you know? Or is it just a game, really? Please advise.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:25 AM
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Not just my safety. I'm really shocked more people haven't figured it out. Or maybe they have and they're like me, too afraid of what will happen to us all should they find out. They're the ones with our info we should be worrying about. They have the man power to actually use it.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:25 AM
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posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
Not just my safety. I'm really shocked more people haven't figured it out. Or maybe they have and they're like me, too afraid of what will happen to us all should they find out. They're the ones with our info we should be worrying about. They have the man power to actually use it.








Well if you are all so knowing, how about sharing the pearls of wisdom?!

From my perspective, I think you don't know yourself, allowise you would be more forthcoming with the detail.

Remember, it's always okay to speculate, not so okay to withold the substance. If you want us to see your perspective....then show us.


Can't bring yourself to enlighten us?

Perhaps the person starring every post you have written so far on this thread could shed some light ?



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 10:00 AM
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Who defines what's hostile? Most people are like duck the government, theyre just milking us, guess that means everyone's a potential surveillance target.

I hope they've got great people going though 500,000,000 people worth of data



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by NamelessOne
Who defines what's hostile? Most people are like duck the government, theyre just milking us, guess that means everyone's a potential surveillance target.

I hope they've got great people going though 500,000,000 people worth of data


Some history .... www.burrellesluce.com...

In 1888 a company was formed to clip articles and commentary from newspapers for "customers" who were willing to pay for specialized information about their particular interests from all across the country.

Now I wasn't around in 1888 to know what kind of information this company was clipping and passing along or to whom, but the enterprise grew over the years and they're still at it. I worked for a brief time in the 1970s at one of their huge monitoring/clipping locations. The "source" book listing the type of info to be clipped was enormous ~ close to six inches thick, and along with all sorts of product information to be clipped for subscribing manufacturers, this book included the names of politicians, govt. agencies, and specific subject matter on government activities, which was to be forwarded to those who were closely "monitoring" what was being said about them, including editorials, opinion pages and even classified sections.

Around that same time, there was a local journalist who was suddenly eliminated from her job as managing editor of a popular newspaper shortly after publishing a scathing editorial about people fearing the power of government prying and how that affects our behavior in negative ways. She was an incredibly good writer who had been at that paper for a number of years with a good following. Can I prove that's why she got canned and was systematically blackballed by all the other local papers? No, but the IRS was definitely listed in that source book and there's no doubt in my mind that this was her "sin", as I responded to that editorial with my own rather spirited opinion and two weeks later I was notified by the folks in Ogden that I was being audited. Over the next two years I received more mail from those folks than from my own family. "You owe ....You owe ... You owe ... " Actually, when it was over I got a bigger refund.


My point is, this PRIVATELY owned company has been playing peeping tom on the people since the late 1800s and although it has changed over the years to accommodate ever changing technology, they're still doing what they've always done for those who need to know what everybody is saying, doing and thinking of doing.


www.burrellesluce.com...
Here’s a short list of the types of online sources we monitor:
Online publications, such as web news sources, news wires, and syndicated services
Internet forums, including message boards
Blogs, including both citizen and mainstream journalists
Social networks, like Twitter and LinkedIn Q&A
Video sharing sites, such as YouTube


Other PRIVATE companies are doing the same with voice communications and profiting handsomely by it. But regular people, just like you and I, are the drones who work for them. We have met the enemy.




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posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:16 PM
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In other words, they are just formalizing the programs they are probably running at the moment secretly.

No big programs like that happen without test phases in secret. They already have their lists, it's probably an expanded list.

And somewhere around a decade down the road they'll play the national security eugenics act, so all those people on that list get handled. Why does the concept of Schindler's list come up? Oh right, because that's what this is. I have smelled this dung before and it is the same stuff Axis powers promoted that caused the US to invade to restore justice on humankind.

I suppose this teeters on the scientific community's capabilities to engineer replacement people.

Crimes of humanity, putting people on lists like that.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 12:44 PM
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it is the same stuff Axis powers promoted that caused the US to invade to restore justice on humankind.


Is that what the allies were doing? How did that work out, have you seen much humanity or justice being promoted or restored to anyone by the allies since WWII, much less since the founding of America? They've been talking a pretty effective "we're the good guys" game all along whilst spying on everyone and bombing the snot out of anybody that talks bad about them. Now you've gotta watch your own mouth ....

Year-by-year Timeline of America’s Major Wars (1776-2011)
www.loonwatch.com...
(you have to scroll down a bit to get to the list and a lot further to get to the post axis timeline.) There are five years listed since WWII that we haven't been at war with someone.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
Guess you missed that qualifier "now or once hostile to the United States" but hey don't let the facts interfere with sensationalism.

2nd line is for:


You are on a conspiracy website, I think that may qualify you, but I'm not sure because the langauge is so darn vague
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posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:04 PM
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Hostile means intent to do harm, anyone who doesn't know that should go back to kindergarten and relearn their vocabulary.

and what does "harm" entail, oh learned one?

i think your post is "harmful", ergo all ur files r belong to us. your opinion is harmful, so enjoy indefinite detention as an enemy combatant.

face it. the wording is so vague that almost anything can be included.



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 01:20 PM
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When injustice becomes law. Rebellion becomes duty.- Thomas Jefferson.
Possibly my favorite quote from him. It is time to heed the warnings of our Founding Fathers. As stated earlier the Tree of Liberty needs refreshed.
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posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 03:32 PM
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as far as i'm concerned, anyone that works for Obama is hostile....constantly "declaring war" with some country that didn't do a damn thing to america.....seriously....wtf is he thinking?? if we declare war on a box of donuts, is that considered "hostile"??



posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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if we declare war on a box of donuts, is that considered "hostile"??


You can always tell if a donut was hostile because it'll have a hole blown out of the middle of it. The harmless donuts are the ones filled with pudding or jelly.




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posted on Jun, 22 2013 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by dudeman351
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When injustice becomes law. Rebellion becomes duty.- Thomas Jefferson.
Possibly my favorite quote from him. It is time to heed the warnings of our Founding Fathers. As stated earlier the Tree of Liberty needs refreshed.
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I like this


Interesting to note there was more wisdom then, than there is today.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 05:14 AM
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
Guess you missed that qualifier "now or once hostile to the United States" but hey don't let the facts interfere with sensationalism.


Uh, define "hostile", because the definition of the words as understood by the Feds plays a huge role in whether the article is factual or sensationalistic. A general meaning of "hostile" is any negative feelings being vocalized or given form. Let me assure you, by that definition there a lot of Americans who are right now pretty damned hostile toward the United States government (generally just called "the United States" in most of their propaganda and legal writings.)



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