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Originally posted by BaneOfQuo
reply to post by HauntWok
beyond repair, already, global climate change has increased the global temperature. and it is due in a large part to the effect we have on the environment.
Wow soo false, you can almost trick people to think its true.
Did you know a single volcanic eruption spit more green house gases into the atmosphere then the entire human civilization has since he 1800's or the industrial revolution.
Hope has the earth coped with such natural processes for millions of years, god forbid the last couple hundred...
Terrorism can start and perpetuate wars that can end all life on this planet....get your priorities straight buckaroo
Scientists have also observed that the concentration of atmospheric CO2 increases during periods of warming. However, an increase in temperature always precedes an increase in carbon dioxide, which generally occurs decades or centuries after any change of temperature. We have not observed an increase in the concentration of Carbon Dioxide to have preceded a period of warming. This latter phenomenon occurs because when oceans absorb more heat from an increase in the amount of direct solar irradiance incident upon the Earth's surface, they release more Carbon Dioxide molecules into the atmosphere. Nevertheless, most drastic increases in CO2 concentration occur decades or centuries after the oceans have warmed up. For example, the present increase of atmospheric Carbon Dioxide was caused by an extraordinary increase in solar activity in 1998 which warmed up the El Niño South Atlantic Oceanic Oscillation.
In the 1990′s the classic Vostok ice core graph showed temperature and carbon in lock step moving at the same time. It made sense to worry that carbon dioxide did influence temperature. But by 2003 new data came in and it was clear that carbon lagged behind temperature. The link was back to front. Temperatures appear to control carbon, and while it’s possible that carbon also influences temperature these ice cores don’t show much evidence of that. After temperatures rise, on average it takes 800 years before carbon starts to move. The extraordinary thing is that the lag is well accepted by climatologists, yet virtually unknown outside these circles. The fact that temperature leads is not controversial. It’s relevance is debated.
Originally posted by rickymouse
reply to post by Indigo5
A reinforced concrete home can be built for near the same price as a stick built house. It can incorporate strips for nailing siding on. It may not be the best choice for up north here where there is a lot of cold weather but it would work great down in those areas mid country. It would also lower air conditioning costs. A normal roof system could be added to the concrete slab flat roof.
If I lived down south I would build that sort of house for the cooling effect alone. The inside could be finished with a cement plaster and be smother than drywall. I'd install a generator in a cement outbuilding also.
Originally posted by charles1952
I have two worries that seemingly haven't been addressed in depth. Maybe that's because they needn't be.
One, the worries about Climate Change (When did it switch from Global Warming) are based on models and predictions. I remember books and articles in the 1970-80 era which warned us about an ice age due to the same concerns people are having now. There is a fair amount of controversy over the current models, why should we trust them to accurately predict future results when they have no explanation for the last 15-20 years of nearly no warming?
Two, the discussion seems to be centered on Capitalism and the US. I would be more impressed if we looked at the countries which produced the most "Pollution per Unit of Output." Has there been any pressure on China or other countries? I haven't seen it. Rather, the pressure seems to be on the richer countries. That makes me suspicious of the underlying motives.