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I Am Simon Alexandra, The Water Bearer

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posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:33 PM
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Well said. Too often do people try to limit the role of the human potential. Jesus said, anything I can do you can do and more. If this is the case, why would he not want humans to understand and cultivate the esoteric truths stitched into his teachings?

AAC




posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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because you dont believe you are pure enough of heart to take the test, doesnt mean that everyone is the same.


The "pure of heart" would know better than to attempt it in the first place.


nope.. the fearful and underserving would know to stay away from it. they could be devoid of all common sense.. but they will know not to try to trick God. it is the same as walking thru a metal detector at a party. if you know you have nothing on you.. then there's no problem walking thru.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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if you truly believe this, and believe that you are a Christian who has lived the life Christ intended, dont u think, that at the very least.. your body would be being prepared by now? what i mean to point out.. is that if what you have been doing has been working.. then why hasnt it worked yet?


That's a topic for a whole other thread.

By the way, I don't have to prepare my body for Jesus' return. It won't be necessary.

What are you talking about as far as "then why hasn't it worked yet"? I don't understand what you're talking about.


arent you supposed to be seeking the kingdom of Heaven as Jesus instructed? Have you found it yet?



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:50 PM
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nope.. the fearful and underserving would know to stay away from it. they could be devoid of all common sense.. but they will know not to try to trick God. it is the same as walking thru a metal detector at a party. if you know you have nothing on you.. then there's no problem walking thru.


That's where you're being deceived by your fake "light" and you don't even realize it....yet.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:54 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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nope.. the fearful and underserving would know to stay away from it. they could be devoid of all common sense.. but they will know not to try to trick God. it is the same as walking thru a metal detector at a party. if you know you have nothing on you.. then there's no problem walking thru.


That's where you're being deceived by your fake "light" and you don't even realize it....yet.


i wonder how u know my light is fake?

but either way.. ur saying.. please confirm.. that the light within our bodies and minds, the Light of the Holy Spirit which fills the body, which i claim to possess... is fake?



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:56 PM
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Fake light? That is really funny. It screams that you know nothing of light, because truth cannot be faked.

I cannot explain this certainty to you though. It would be like trying to describe the color blue to a man born blind.

But I'll leave you with this....

TRUTH CANNOT BE FAKED



AAC



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 03:59 PM
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arent you supposed to be seeking the kingdom of Heaven as Jesus instructed? Have you found it yet?


That question has already been answered in this thread and we both know that your definition and mine are totally different from one another.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:02 PM
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Fake light? That is really funny. It screams that you know nothing of light, because truth cannot be faked.


That's what you're about to find out. Your "light" isn't telling you the truth.

Even Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light in order to fool you. He does have that ability.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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arent you supposed to be seeking the kingdom of Heaven as Jesus instructed? Have you found it yet?


That question has already been answered in this thread and we both know that your definition and mine are totally different from one another.


are you afraid to stake your claim? what gives your knowledge and beliefs weight over others in this thread? where is your proof? what can you teach us of receiving God's light without having received it yourself? what can you in any truth say that YOU KNOW? You know nothing! you are like a child trying to enter a conversation with revered quantum physicists. of course they will note your immature intellect on the subject matter.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:05 PM
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When Jesus said that he would send people a strong delusion that they might "believe the lie", what do you think he meant?



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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When Jesus said that he would send people a strong delusion that they might "believe the lie", what do you think he meant?


he couldve been speaking of christians and dogmatic interpretation to live in a delusion where they do not fathom or believe that the Kingdom of Heaven is a real place with real directions to follow that will take you there. their feelings of the Holy Spirit are but figments of their imagination yet they claim trump over all else. the reason u cant stake your claim is because u have no faith in it. u have not the courage!!! knowing u cant get too deep without ur shabby temple's framework being shaken.

the amount of rubbish you've swallowed might be toxic. u really wholeheartedly believe every word of a people who killed your messiah and freed a murderer, then string him up on a cross for all the world to see.. and then untop of that.. Make a Logo out of it? do you think Jesus will be pleased with the church in his return??

meh u are so far behind it is pointless.. uve made ur choice.. leave us buffoons with our gullible interpretations on our pathway to hell. my time for teaching the ignorant is over.
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posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:12 PM
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You keep saying this...

Let me give you some personal background.

When I was 7 I purposely didn't open 4 christmas presents so that I would not know what I was giving away. Early the next day I walk 4 blocked to a friends house whom I knew didn't have money for christmas and put them in his window. Never did I tell him that I did that.

I have never cheated on a girlfriend because I respected them far to much to hurt them.

I have always been the person that friended the unfriended.

My mother would always get on me for giving things away that I still wanted. The reason is that I coveted giving the feeling I got when I received the girt to someone else.

I could go on and on, but I don't want you to spin this into me thinking I'm holier than thou. But the truth is, I have always been in the warm rays of light. I have no reason to be tricked by evil. I have lived the type of life that makes me believe in the deeper perspectives my faith has given me.

For you to say that I can be tricked by the devil, indicated not only do you know nothing about me, but you also do not know anything about spiritual development.

The interesting thing in all of this is that it seems that it is you that is being deceived by a handicapped version of the truth.

AAC



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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he couldve been speaking of christians and dogmatic interpretation


That's a good one! LOL! Jesus is going to punish the very people he taught. That's priceless!



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined


That's a good one! LOL! Jesus is going to punish the very people he taught. That's priceless!


Jesus taught me what I have been writing in this thread... And you are saying that I will be punished for my beliefs.



AAC



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:27 PM
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I've already told you that the "Kingdom of God is within you" meant the Holy Spirit. It is not the spirit you are born with. Jesus is the Holy Spirit. Jesus only resides with us as the Holy Spirit until he sets up his physical kingdom and returns to take us back with Him.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:30 PM
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The Bible says that salvation is not found in good works lest someone (like yourself) should boast about it.

This is why good works was not an absolute condition for salvation.

However, if you're as "pure of heart" as you claim, what led you to mysticism?



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by Deetermined
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he couldve been speaking of christians and dogmatic interpretation


That's a good one! LOL! Jesus is going to punish the very people he taught. That's priceless!


he's suppose to have a preference? if u are a very bad christian who goes to church every sunday but pull down your fellow man, scorn the beggar etc Christ is supposed to grant you admission into his kingdom just because u say you believe in him?

what folly. takes us back to the original question. if you are correct.. then where is the Kingdom of heaven.. have you been there? proving you have access to God's Kingdom to teach us of truth? or are you just a mere scholar pretending to be of supreme intellect? you dont need to be a Christian to be Saved. what you need is to be granted reprentance by the ONE GOD who as you say will Judge the tribes based on their righteousness in living their lives? who are you and how righteous are you that you can lecture us? when you do not even have the courage your self to face the tribulation? wasting our time and your own as well.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:34 PM
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Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation

Originally posted by Deetermined


That's a good one! LOL! Jesus is going to punish the very people he taught. That's priceless!


Jesus taught me what I have been writing in this thread... And you are saying that I will be punished for my beliefs.



AAC


AAC dont u see what he's doing? it is pointless. his level is unfortunately one of those that must burn to learn. his eyes will not be opened. it's like he's trolling.. but it's just that he knows so little about anything it seems that way. He has been selected for hardening. it is God's will that he not understand.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:36 PM
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No, FAITH followed by good works leads to salvation, but good works alone does not.



posted on Jun, 23 2013 @ 04:38 PM
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I'll ask you the same thing. What led you to mysticism in the first place?




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