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Originally posted by stormson
reply to post by amfirst1
the flat tax is a joke. as an auditor, you should know that.
say the tax is 10%. A makes 10k and B makes 100k. A pays 1000 and B pays 10,000. which of the two can most afford the tax? which of the two makes out like a bandit. this proves the "flat tax" is unfair to the poor.
"I hope that we crush ... in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." -Thomas Jefferson
"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." -Thomas Jefferson
Originally posted by Kali74
Too many people in this country have 'battered wife syndrome'. It's never the abusers fault, the victim got out of line and asked their needs be met.
Corporations are the government now, have been for quite a while... they just have less and less need to hide it.
24 of 37 Exxon lobbyists have held government posiotions.
16 of 22 Monsanto lobbyists have held government positions.
I can go on if anyone likes...
Vote for people who wull fix the problem. It's a Democracy, right?
Originally posted by MyHappyDogShiner
Contracts, contracts
Originally posted by NavyDoc
And yet those same "victims" want to make the abuser bigger and bigger with less restraint upon them. Big government gets bigger
"victim" ... keeps asking for more and more of the same government to abuse them and everytime believe it when government says "this time it'll be different...I promise."
The people, and by extension, CREATED lobbyists.
If you want to see why corporate lobbyists have so much influence in our lives and have ever said to yourself "their aught to be a regulation to stop stuff I don't like" all you need to do is look in the mirror.
Originally posted by NavyDoc
Originally posted by stormson
reply to post by amfirst1
the flat tax is a joke. as an auditor, you should know that.
say the tax is 10%. A makes 10k and B makes 100k. A pays 1000 and B pays 10,000. which of the two can most afford the tax? which of the two makes out like a bandit. this proves the "flat tax" is unfair to the poor.
"I hope that we crush ... in its birth the aristocracy of our moneyed corporations, which dare already to challenge our government to a trial of strength and bid defiance to the laws of our country." -Thomas Jefferson
"Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise." -Thomas Jefferson
Nonsense. What makes the time one person took to make 100k any less valuable than the time it took the other guy to make 10K? Why is one person's life (because that is what passes when you work) more valuable than the other? Other than envy, there is no logical reason nor "fairness" about a progressive tax.
If everyone pays some sort of income taxes, then people will be less anxious to increase the power of government to "get the other guy." If everyone has skin in the game, people will be less inclined to vote for fiscally irresponsible politicians and laws. As it stands, to many people vote out of envy and "getting the other guy" they don't realize that ultimately they are hurting themselves.
Originally posted by ThinkingHuman
If 99% of all campaign contributions for Democrats and Republicans are coming from those evil corporations - then why are we still voting for those Democrats and Republicans?
To put it bluntly: We Americans are voting for those evil corporations, their lobbies and their stooges - and we have nobody to blame but ourselves. The evil is ourselves!
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Last time I checked green, libertarian, constitution, socialist, justice, communist party were excluded from the ballots to various degree.
You remember it is a market system. If we stop watching them, they go bankrupt. If you burn, you go to jail.
I put more blame on the media because they have selective amnesia. I would start by burning...
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
How are people going to wake up by listening to the corporate media?
Why is one person's life (because that is what passes when you work) more valuable than the other? Other than envy, there is no logical reason nor "fairness" about a progressive tax.
And yet those same "victims" want to make the abuser bigger and bigger with less restraint upon them. Big government gets bigger and the victims keep asking for more of the same big government to come and save them.