Berlin Looks a Lot Different to Obama in 2013 Than It Did in 2008

Barack Obama returned to Berlin today, almost five years to the day from when he delivered his famous "Victory Column" speech that cemented his reputation as an international rockstar. Unfortunately, his reception this time was a lot different.

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An estimated 200,000 people turned out in July 2008 to see then Candidate Obama deliver an address in front of one of Germany's most notable landmarks. Today Obama spoke in front only about 5,000-6,000 spectators, all of them invited guests.

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I guess Germans like there privacy As for the speech context I haven't gotten into in yet.

Ever seen that Scrubs episode about the second baby?

I think there are a lot of parallels here.

With your first baby, everyone will congratulate you and make a big deal out of it.
With the second baby, who cares?

Still, 5000 too much.

In 2008, 200,000 people? I will never understand why any politician would get such a large crowd.

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thats because alot of them at the time thought they were going to a concert. a handfull of songs where played and then obama took stage, the crowd wasn't alowed to leave once obama took stage if i remember right.

Maybe the German people are still a little sore about the whole Stasi thing and the NSA tore open some old wounds.

The West Germans thought they were liberating East Germany.

And the USA thought it was the land of the free.

Welcome to global delusion.

Originally posted by KaelemJames
Still, 5000 too much.

In 2008, 200,000 people? I will never understand why any politician would get such a large crowd.

because he is black and naively people thought he would bring major change to America because of the success he's had at becoming the first black president. Sadly he's done fek all. And looks like he could drag us into ww3.

Never judge a book by its colour.

The Germans also must of seen the map of world NSA surveillance and saw they were the most watched in Europe! In 2008 yes there was a full concert with a number of bands which would count for the high numbers. Hate to see how much his 2016 farewell speech will bring!
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Guess

Berlin 'Lost that thrill up it's leg'.


'Keine Liebe für Obama in Berlin'

Blame google online translator for that.

Suppose to say "No love for Obama in Berlin'.

"Never judge a book by it's color"

Nice little twist on that one. Made me smile for some reason.
Anyone else notice the "foundation" or gound under him getting smaller and smaller?

The second child syndrome could definatly be what this is but i think people all over are overloaed
with too many promises "talking points" that never came through and all the scandals.