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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:20 AM
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Is it possible for humans to advance to our technological levels in the ancient past without alien intervention?

Homo Sapiens have been existence since 250,000 years ago and it took 5,000 years for us to advanced from Spears to Nuclear Weapons.


One thing I notice in mainstream science is that we are being told that Humanity have been welding sticks from 250,000 years ago til about few thousand years ago. If assuming it takes Humanity 5,000 years to advance from spears to our level can't they do it in the ancient past? 250,000 years is a very long time and by then they could have advanced to a highly sophisticated technological society without alien intervention. Unless a catastrophe wipe them out, leaving a few traces of this ancient advanced civilization. What if all the Civilizations like the Sumerians, the Chinese, and others are remnants of this advanced civilization?

It could explain why many myths and religion are very similar and also how Sumerians and others are advanced for their time.

It can also explain the Origins of the Egyptian Pyramids.

One of the arguments I've heard is that if there was an ancient advanced global civilization in the past then it would leave traces. If our civilization were to collapse and wipe out 90 percent of the population we would revert back to stone age since most of the architects, Physicists, and other brilliant minds will all be gone and those people who survive would be more focused on survival rather than creating new things. Without people maintaining the cities, eventually they will be gone because wildlife would have reclaim them and plus the buildings would have been destroyed due to erosion. Modern Buildings like Steel Skyscrapers wouldn't last very long. This may explain why if the a hypothetical advanced civilization were to exist in the past there wouldn't be any traces left.

Also skeptics have asked where are the computers, planes cars, etc. Well the remnants of advanced technology would have been lone gone. Look at our computers, I don't see them lasting a hundred years since these items can rust away.
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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:36 AM
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I think it more likely then that they were alien.

The evidence is found our genes. Read and learn.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Occam's Razor says it's never the difficult option, but the easy one. Our genetics suggest, we did it.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:42 AM
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All of this has happened before and it will all happen again...

I love that phrase, why?

Well in 10,000 years our civilization may have not created anything that lasts that long thus erasing the sum of our existence. Sure perhaps there are odd artifacts a DVD in a cave that lasts forever but perhaps all the foundations of our civilization will have crumbled over time.

I believe this rise to technology has been repeated several times throughout the course of human history. And either natural disasters (Like in the Myth of Atlantis) or our own doings cause us to reboot back to basic survival.

We know that modern History teaches us that Civilizations rise and fall cyclically who is to say that we are now at the pinnacle of achievement or that we have at least not been here before?
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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Without people maintaining the cities, eventually they will be gone because wildlife would have reclaim them and plus the buildings would have been destroyed due to erosion. Modern Buildings like Steel Skyscrapers wouldn't last very long. This may explain why if the a hypothetical advanced civilization were to exist in the past there wouldn't be any traces left.

Bad examples.

Skyscrapers have concrete foundations that go hundreds of feet down into the Earth. Evidence like that isn't going anywhere, regardless of how much time goes by, until it recycles back into the mantle of the Earth (if that ever happens.)

How long will it take the faces on Mount Rushmore to erode away?

Road beds leave obvious traces that can be found by even amatuer investigators. Especially roads like freeways.

In this case, no evidence pretty much means no such thing existed.

Harte



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:45 AM
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My problem with ancient astronaut theory is that there's a lot of fallacies


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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:47 AM
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Then again what if it's under water there are reports of cities underwater. We all know that the coastlines of today isn't the same thing as the coastlines during the last ice age



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:49 AM
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The best subjective evidence to 1 would be a similar planet found that had similar Flora/Fauna reserves on it and mammals similar to EA*RTH mammals. And perhaps the would get a glimpse at past like or un modified future potentials. Interesting OP. Also it would be wild if MAN was made elsewhere and so there would possible be more evidence, following that concept there. KEEPING IN MIND LORD ENLIL IS SAID TO OF DESIGNED EDIN (what could it be) LAB/moon/Planet(s) don't know but for a being to be able to design a growth location for mankind... The GOD essence...

LOVE LIGHT ETERNIA*******
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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:53 AM
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Any race of sufficient advancement would know about the physical properties of gold, and we would have found -something- fashioned out of gold that takes these properties into account. Gold does not react with water. It doesn't corrode. Anything made with gold thousands of years ago is exactly as it was then, as long as it wasn't eroded by wind or water.
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posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:54 AM
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Interesting why there's no gold now. Well what if all traces are underwater?



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by Harte
How long will it take the faces on Mount Rushmore to erode away?


Probably about 100-200 years. It has to be maintained constantly as plants growing in it will break way the faces, cracks can then contain water, water expanding and contracting, buy buy faces. A lot of people don't realize just how much physical maintenance needs to be done to keep our cities and structures intact.


Skyscrapers have concrete foundations that go hundreds of feet down into the Earth. Evidence like that isn't going anywhere, regardless of how much time goes by, until it recycles back into the mantle of the Earth (if that ever happens.)


Wrong again. Water is the great destroyer. Especially concrete, which is subceptible to water damage.Concrete is currently expected to last 75-100 years WITH maintenance... now imagine it without. The chemicals used in concrete to speed up curing time, make it stronger, etc. are also it's downfall. It all reacts to water. It's one of the reasons why it doesn't have the durability that the concrete used in BC era has.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
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Interesting why there's no gold now. Well what if all traces are underwater?


There's no gold? There is gold all over the place. You have gold in your computer, so do I.

Why would the traces of pre-industrial advanced gold use be underwater? Are you talking about something like a shipwreck or a plane crash? There is no reason to believe that something like that wouldn't be underwater if we had found anything like that in our own fossil records. If advanced gold tech was something that humans had 100,000 years ago, there is no physical evidence of it anywhere. And we know where to look for things like that.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by TLomon

Originally posted by Harte
How long will it take the faces on Mount Rushmore to erode away?


Probably about 100-200 years.


Its actually closer to 10,000 years to begin the process, and it would be closer to 100,000 years before they were no longer recognizable as faces, but by that time they would simply be a curiosity.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:20 AM
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Hmmm interesting earlier you mentioned that water and wind can erode gold. Thousands of years is a very long time and anything can happen. For all we know a car made of gold today would probably turn to gold nuggets a thousand years later due to weathering and wind.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Absolutely, there's nothing new under the sun.. In 10000 years when they investigate our ruins they'll claim alien assistance.. Specially when they stumble across a ET DVD...



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
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Hmmm interesting earlier you mentioned that water and wind can erode gold. Thousands of years is a very long time and anything can happen. For all we know a car made of gold today would probably turn to gold nuggets a thousand years later due to weathering and wind.


Water doesn't erode gold by itself, it needs a scouring agent, like a silica, to help that process. This is how we fine gold dust in streams. Veins of gold are exposed by rivers and are eaten away by the tiny scouring particles in the water. The water itself does nothing to the gold. The same is said for the wind. The wind isn't doing anything to the gold, it is the tiny scouring agents in the wind that does it.

If I buried a pile of gold electronic components in my back yard, in a few thousands years someone would unearth a relatively intact pile of gold electronic components. They are more and more intact the further you get away from any sources of water. In the desert, say under a pyramid, these would be exactly as I left them.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:36 AM
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You talk about 10.000 years of our civilization. Yet we are basically the same hominid species, as Neanderthal split away from.
That was 1 million years ago. The only thing that changed, was that our species ended up with a lot more genetic variety.

The last ice age is basically the only thing, that could be the origin of the flood story in Noah's arc.
Every city present at the time, would have probably been submerged, as the ocean level was a couple hundred meters lower, during the ice age.
The ice age ended 40.000 years ago. That we've found a couple of city like ruins under the ocean, many miles from the coastlines.

Can you even imagine how much could have happened in those 999.960 years, before we even left the ice age.
Our genetic data is pretty convincing, as it tells the whole story.

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 11:38 AM
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I'm not even trying to say ancient alien theory is ok

Did you look at the links I posted, because what you find is plain science. Published articles from this year.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 12:18 PM
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If there had been ancient alien visitors our ancestors would have took off back to the trees and still be hiding there, never having figured out how to bash one rock against another for pleasing results.



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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1 feels
Visitations DID occur however as well as Human origin enhancements /alterations/genetic modifications. As well as feels human Origin may or may not of evolved. I say this because some of the Origins may have STILL been present but as the species was developing, less intelligent parts of origin, overcame by NEW parts of Origins... And so some Origins may have well advanced (if seen today may possess more hair and other evolved human like features like bigfoot smart as sapiens sapiens though if not more, and so lol when avoiding detection OUTTA box yes



posted on Jun, 19 2013 @ 12:25 PM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Is it possible for humans to advance to our technological levels in the ancient past without alien civilization?

Of course - as our history shows.



Homo Sapiens have been existence since 250,000 years ago and it took 5,000 years for us to advanced from Spears to Nuclear Weapons.

As far as I know, humanity have used spears far longer than 5000 years. In fact, our predecessors used them too.
The only thing that is interesting is that it took us roughly 250.000 years to advance to Nuclear Weapons. Your 5000 years is completely random in itself.



One thing I notice in mainstream science is that we are being told that Humanity have been welding sticks from 250,000 years ago til about few thousand years ago. If assuming it takes Humanity 5,000 years to advance from spears to our level

The problem is that you're assuming completely incorrectly.
In order to build nuclear weapons, you need to begin with basics that aren't even science. That is,
1.Figure out how to settle down and spend less time surviving and finding food.
2. Establish some sort of a civilization instead of constantly killing each other. We still have some of that problem.
3. Breed for more brain-power (and for the fun of it). We weren't many at the time.
4. Understand how the world works



can't they do it in the ancient past? 250,000 years is a very long time and by then they could have advanced to a highly sophisticated technological society without alien intervention

....and that's exactly what we did?



. Unless a catastrophe wipe them out, leaving a few traces of this ancient advanced civilization. What if all the Civilizations like the Sumerians, the Chinese, and others are remnants of this advanced civilization?

What advanced civilization? Our ancestors are our ancestors and we've now greater than them.



It could explain why many myths and religion are very similar and also how Sumerians and others are advanced for their time.

What explains why they are similar is because they mostly have the same origin - us.



It can also explain the Origins of the Egyptian Pyramids.

That we built them..?



One of the arguments I've heard is that if there was an ancient advanced global civilization in the past then it would leave traces. If our civilization were to collapse and wipe out 90 percent of the population we would revert back to stone age since most of the architects, Physicists, and other brilliant minds will all be gone and those people who survive would be more focused on survival rather than creating new things. Without people maintaining the cities, eventually they will be gone because wildlife would have reclaim them and plus the buildings would have been destroyed due to erosion. Modern Buildings like Steel Skyscrapers wouldn't last very long. This may explain why if the a hypothetical advanced civilization were to exist in the past there wouldn't be any traces left.

Nonsense. We have traces of simple animals that have lived a lot longer ago than our history.
We have traces of simple pots and tools from the beginning of our own history.
We have traces of ancient villages.
Surely we'd have a lot more than pots, and clear proof that there was a global civilization. Which we don't. Because there wasn't.



Also skeptics have asked where are the computers, planes cars, etc. Well the remnants of advanced technology would have been lone gone. Look at our computers, I don't see them lasting a hundred years since these items can rust away.

First of all, you have never ever seen a single car or computer rust away and disappearing.
Second, ...nevermind. This is getting a bit too ridiculous.






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