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John 2:15-17
Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.
John 15:19
If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you.
James 4:4 ESV / 23 helpful votes
You adulterous people! Do you not know that friendship with the world is enmity with God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.
No; I am not a spirit. But likewise, it would be just as foolish to assume I am a body only.
The people of the world need to learn to curb their thoughts and confine them to a path of peace and productivity.
Well said...
You seem a little worried about it though...
Why do you care what others tell you if you're not at least curious as to why some people come to these conclusions?
You will rethink what you wrote in this thread when the day comes you'll go to the other side. I understand the fact many charlatans can spread many lies under the veil of salvation through spirit. The very fact a lie is hidden under a truth does mean the truth has become a lie though, this is the very point of this thread I think. Nice thoughts I must admit, I feel ya .
Thank you for reading,
I have been puzzled as to your recent fondness of semantic abstractions. you used to make a lot of sense, but more recently it has appeared that you prefer to ignore the spirit of the word, and instead insist that words are sterile things which have a definitive and objective meaning.
Every time a “spiritual” one tells me I’m not my body they do so with their body.
There comes a time in everyone’s life when they must define themselves, to sell their cloak and buy a sword, to face their true judge and finally make the choice to become what they are. That definition should be just as unique as the one it defines.
1-The Spirit is not within the Body, The Body is within the Spirit
whence originated the idea[s] being communicated? the desire and the will to communicate?
if you insist that it's all just chemical brainfarts [matter in motion/neuroscientific POV] this makes you a nihilist
not someones labeling you. methinks you are ignoring some pesky causality links at the end of the chain.
nihilism |ˈnīəˌlizəm, ˈnē-|
noun
the rejection of all religious and moral principles, often in the belief that life is meaningless.
• Philosophy extreme skepticism maintaining that nothing in the world has a real existence.
• historical the doctrine of an extreme Russian revolutionary party c. 1900, which found nothing to approve of in the established social order.
Most commonly, nihilism is presented in the form of existential nihilism, which argues that life is without objective meaning, purpose, or intrinsic value.[1]
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by Akragon
Well said...
You seem a little worried about it though...
Why do you care what others tell you if you're not at least curious as to why some people come to these conclusions?
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I am very interested how people come to these conclusions. I love the psychology of it all.
Why do we defend the physical so? Why do we feel it is a necessary aspect of our being? It has done absolutely nothing for us.
Spiritualists on the other hand tend to already know life after death exists... they need no book to tell them what is true... for truth is written in all mens hearts anyways...
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by Akragon
Spiritualists on the other hand tend to already know life after death exists... they need no book to tell them what is true... for truth is written in all mens hearts anyways...
I wonder then how they know? Maybe they've seen it?
Believe it or not my friend... we have all "seen it"... Some are given the gift of actually seeing their past lives... some see spirits or "ghosts" for lack of a better word...
The reasons are numerous....
Myself... I have never once seen anything that could be considered "supernatural"... What I know comes from study... and seeing the effect my beliefs have on my world and others around me
Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
It allows us to exist. If you think being physically formed is the cause of your misery, then you just described everything in the universe. If none of this does nothing for you, why do you still exist? What is keeping you hear?
By "seeing" I think you mean imagining. The imagination is very powerful indeed. I can fly in my imagination.
I appreciate your honesty here. It is a rarity. But study of what may I ask?