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Listening in Los Angeles Southern California scanner listeners also have local laws to contend with. The City and County of Los Angeles both have ordinances dealing with scanners. In Los Angeles County a 1944 law still on the books makes it an infraction equip any vehicle with, or operate any vehicle equipped with, a short wave radio receiver. The ordinance defines a short wave radio receiver as any radio receiver or other device capable of receiving messages or communications transmitted on any radio transmission station operating on a frequency between 1600 kilocycles and 2500 kilocycles, or on a frequency between 30 megacycles and 40 megacycles, or between 150 megacycles and 160 megacycles. Similarly, the City of Los Angeles in two local ordinances restricts the use of scanners within the city limits. First, SEC. 52.44 titled "Willfully listening to Police and Fire Departments portable radio messages prohibited" makes it unlawful for any person to willfully listen by means of any radio receiving device located in or upon any vehicle to any official message which is being transmitted by the Police Department or Fire Department of the City of Los Angeles or any law enforcement agency over a radio transmitting station owned or operated by such city or agency. The City ordinance does not apply to persons to whom a permit to listen to such radio messages has been issued in writing by the Chief of Police of the City of Los Angeles. And those permits are completely discretionary, which means they may be issued after he determines that public interest will be served by the issuance of such permit but don’t have to be issued. The City law does not apply by its own language to any officer, agent, or servant of any government agency or public utility, the performance of whose duty as such officer, agent or servant, requires that he listen to such messages. The City of Los Angeles, like the State of California, also prohibits listening for financial or, most certainly, criminal advantage. Its Sec. 52.46 titled "Use of Short Wave Radios" provides that “[n]o person who intercepts, overhears or receives any message or communication transmitted by any radio transmission station operating upon a wave length or radio frequency assigned by the Federal Communication Commission for use by any police or law enforcement department shall, for the financial benefit of himself or another communicate such message or communication to another or directly or indirectly use the information so obtained.”
Originally posted by Valenz
I wonder - Is there a some kind of a symbolic Zionist (in our face) meaning behind all of this? Doesn't it seem rather unusual to behold an obviously observant orthodox Jew in partial regalia "out front" (literally and figuratively) at 4 a.m. helping the 'authorities' put out a blaze that's actually none of his business. I mean - this image has been seen around the world by many millions.
I had pointed to this earlier on in the thread by sardonically referring to the uselessly "water spraying rabbi," because it occurs that he's actually feeding the fire rather than helping to extinguish it. So I'll ask it again. Why is the yarmulke wearing "Frum" (Goggle it) feeding a gasoline fire with water? Even though he might not realize the absolute stupidity of his actions, why is he even acting as though he's making a contribution by pretending to be a fireman? Is he not even aware that he's interfering with an accident investigation at the very least? Furthermore, why is no one else at the scene making any effort at stopping him?
"Willfully listening to Police and Fire Departments portable radio messages prohibited" makes it unlawful for any person to willfully listen by means of any radio receiving device located in or upon any vehicle to any official message which is being transmitted by the Police Department or Fire Department of the City of Los Angeles or any law enforcement agency over a radio transmitting station owned or operated by such city or agency.
Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
Those are electronic signs not a wooden placard with a painting on it.
Paparazzi use scanners all the time, as well as private investigators. Their press pass and investigators license exempt them from the ordinance. It's not uncommon, just like this accident. Both happen every single day all over the country, and world.
If this guy wasn't a journalist you wouldn't give any of this a second thought.
So far there's been nothing suspicious especially given the hour the accident occurred as a large portion of single vehicle accidents occur between 11pm and 5am.
There were 6 fatal single vehicle accidents within a 90 mile radius of me tonight alone, I don't see 6 new threads about them and every one of them was on the 11 o'clock news tonight. But the people driving weren't "important" enough for any of you to care.
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Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
There were 6 fatal single vehicle accidents within a 90 mile radius of me tonight alone, I don't see 6 new threads about them and every one of them was on the 11 o'clock news tonight. But the people driving weren't "important" enough for any of you to care.
Originally posted by Valenz
Originally posted by Foobler
Originally posted by Foobler
Good article here that breaks down the scene of the accident as it points to foul play:
jimstonefreelance.com...
That link has been updated by the way with more facts, photos, and tidbits.
Thanks very much for that update link.......it corroborates just about everything I have been posting here in this thread.
Here's but one example of the kinds of things I wanted to draw everyone's attention to in the thread - at the risk, of course, of being mocked. In referring to this photo (below) I said that they were "pretending"........according to the article indeed they were "pretending" and far more that I had at first realized.
Where's the big palm tree?
"Who threw my palm tree over the side?" Ensign Pulver: Captain, it is I, and I just threw your stinkin' palm tree overboard! Now what's all this crud about no movie tonight?
edit on 20-6-2013 by Valenz because: (no reason given)