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My recollection of this is - the Navy was in the area conducting drills. From what I understand they us civilian/commercial aircraft as mock targets, but obviously not with live ammunition. I always felt this was an accident they needed to cover up because the population would freak out knowing that the military use civilian craft as mock targets.
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
I didn't see that. I wonder if anybody taped the broadcast? Sometimes I would tape stuff so I could watch it later and FF through the commercials, but I wasn't watching MSNBC at that time.
Originally posted by NickDC202
I was glued to MSNBC all night and will never forget the airing of an amateur video showing what appeared to be a missile soaring up from the ocean and then an explosion in the sky. That explosion was TWA 800.
There aren't many details in the article. Hopefully the film will have more. But if it was really ordinance I would have thought that it would leave a signature about the source, and the article says they don't speculate about the source.
The article linked in the OP does say something about radar evidence:
Originally posted by EViLKoNCEPTz
There was no radar evidence of a SAM
“They also provide radar and forensic evidence proving that one or more ordinance explosions outside the aircraft caused the crash.”edit on 18-6-2013 by Arbitrageur because: clarification
Although I have not seen the July 17 video, I have heard from scores, if not hundreds, of credible people who swear they saw it on television in the first hours after the crash. Some have described it to me and other independent investigators in perfect detail.
MSNBC, launched just two days prior to the disaster, seemed to have won the bidding war for the rights to the July 17 video. I say “seemed” because my source will not speak on record, nor will MSNBC follow up on queries.
What I have been told, however, is that late on the night of the crash, editors at MSNBC had the tape on their monitors when “three men in suits” came to their editing suites, removed the tape, and threatened the editors with serious consequences if they ever revealed its contents. The threats worked all too well. Despite my repeated requests, my source, who was one of the MSNBC editors in question, will not go public, and this video too has disappeared from the official record.
The evidence of a suppressed video, or videos, correlates well with information that my investigative partner James Sanders had received in response to an earlier FOIA petition. As Sanders’ documents reveal, on July 31, 1996, an FBI facility in Quantico, Va. sent back to the FBI office in New York “one original VHS-C Video Cassette Tape, 10 processed VHS video Cassette tape copies, 30 B & W video prints, 49 color video prints.”
Based on the notations on Sanders’ documents, these copies seem to be of the July 17th videotape. The newly un-redacted document in question does not confirm this video’s existence, but it does show the willingness of the authorities to suppress highly relevant video evidence. The question remains: Evidence of what? If there is full agreement among independent investigators that missiles were fired on the night of July 17, 1996, there is no consensus as to who fired them or why. The apparent July 12 video can be interpreted in two ways. The MANPAD reference by the DIA would seem to strengthen the case for terrorist-fired missiles. But the earlier date argues more strongly for a missile test than for a terrorist misfire.
Originally posted by Zaphod58
It was a short circuit in one of the fuel probes they concluded. The fuel vapor was pushed above the ignition point by the air conditioning unit under the tank while they sat on the ground with the AC running, then the wiring to one of the probes had been chafed to the point it shorted inside the tank.
I was sitting in a bar when the breaking news came across that it had crashed, and the center wing fuel tank was the first thing I said (this was less than 2 hours after the crash). The Air Force had recently lost two KC-135s to center wing fuel tank explosions (caused by faulty fuel pump designs).