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Originally posted by Jekka
Originally posted by punkinworks10
With all due respect, that statement is utter rubbish.
The great pyramid weighs 5.9 million tons, Hoover dam on the other hand is 6.6 million tons, and it was completed in five years, along with all of the excavations in the canyon to prep the site. Which included several huge tunnels some 25. miles of roadbeds, electrical transmission lines , and the condtruction of the forms.
This is true, but you need to consider that there is a far greater deal of precision in the pyramids than is present in the Hoover dam. I'm not saying that we couldn't do it today, but until the recent advent of computers, laser leveling, etc. it would have been a serious undertaking to get a technically eight sided pyramid, which faces only 3/60th degree of error from magnetic north/south(while sitting on the equator, making this measurement more difficult because of the distance) and has a light show of sorts during certain celestial events(solstices and equinoxes) which kept track of those days passing. Especially since the concavity of the sides of the pyramid is not visually apparent on close inspection. In short, we could do this today, but even as little as 100 years ago, it would have been sheer dumb luck that would make it accurate to the degree it is now.
The magnetic declination in a given area may (most likely will) change slowly over time, possibly as little as 2–2.5 degrees every hundred years or so, depending upon how far from the magnetic poles it is. For a location closer to the pole like Ivujivik, the declination may change by 1 degree every three years. This may be insignificant to most travellers, but can be important if using magnetic bearings from old charts or metes (directions) in old deeds for locating places with any precision.
Originally posted by ezekielken
The great pyramid was a sonic waterpump. Standpipe, check valve, regulator, sonic amplification chamber, refracting chamber for standing wave. I just wonder what they did with the booms?
Originally posted by LUXUS
reply to post by punkinworks10
They were referring to accuracy, not scale for example a satellite is a lot smaller then the hover dam yet it represents higher accuracy.
Originally posted by pauljs75
Fine cuts and difficult cuts in hard materials? Ultra-sonic cutters. Not piezo-electric as with modern cutters, but made to vibrate by other means. Somebody could stumble upon that concept in ancient times, and musical instruments may give a clue. Perhaps it has a mouthpiece with a reed, and you blow it like a whistle. Or maybe you draw against part of it with a bow like a stringed instrument. Regardless, you have a tool that vibrates at high frequency and brings a hard cutter to bear on a surface. May not be the fastest tool, but may offer the highest precision where clean cuts are desired. Also it may allow you to drill around corners and do other things rotary drilling or typical chiseling can't. Such technology to large blocks is likely an adaptation of lapidary tools, and scaled up.
Keely was alleged to have invented a mineral disintegrator which could be tuned to a given substance to reduce it to dust. In this particular account, the device was tuned to Quartz. Sometime during the 1880's, Keely was experimenting with an instrument originally intended to be used to overcome gravity. When a block of quartz was used as a weight, the intense vibrations generated by the device partially disintegrated the quartz block.
Originally posted by TobinHatcher
I've always felt this theory has a degrading effect on humanity. It says that people can't do the things we do without some higher power helping us along, like aliens, or technology. There are plenty of theories on how these fantastic structures were built, using nothing more than man power. All of them completely possible. And a key thing about the past, something they had plenty of, is time. Patience. That's all it would take, to build something like the pyramids. Planning and time.
Originally posted by LUXUS
Originally posted by cheesy
it's cool! would you give the picture sir..
Much of the above in fact has been found, engineers who have examined the great pyramid which contrary to belief actually has 8 sides have said they could not build a structure which would achieve the same overall accuracy.
I have seen holes drilled into granite block at acute angles which could not be done with a copper bow drill.
Originally posted by jeep3r
If we wanted to apply Occam's razor and use those theories that require making the least assumptions, then yes: they'd have done it with manpower, lots of time, skill, simple but efficient tools and everything would perfectly fit into our essentially linear development in human history.
However, I always like keeping an open mind about things like that. Once we're on a certain trail, we often subscribe to it and it's hard to stay objective or admit we were wrong. That's not different in certain branches of science. While a really good theory is likely to be accepted, it can really take a long time until the last pieces of a previous school of thought have been dismissed.
Apart from that, I ask myself why so many generations before us stood in awe and wonder in front of those megalithic structures. And they also came from different societies & cultures (perhaps with more time at their hands) and yet: they were just as amazed as we are today ...
When I think about the pyramids at Giza and imagine what they would have looked like completely coated in smooth casing stones, it would also be a completely out-of-place concept in terms of design & layout, IMO, not to mention what purpose the interior might have had. I don't know the answers, but I doubt that current paradigms really explain what happened, and when it happened.
Just my 2 cents (as usual) ...
Originally posted by TobinHatcher
Now, if we want to talk about something that I've never heard a good explanation for, I think there's a city in Central America that, supposedly, acts as a model for the solar system. I can't recall the name, but it's been an interest of mine for some time. How'd they pull that off?
Originally posted by uwascallywabbit
klaus dona has a few interesting presentations floating around you tube..
the one im linking here is about curious artifacts from the past...
If you can make mirror flat truly opposed GRANITE surfaces with hard interior 90 degree corners.... then what are you doing using tech like this TO BURY MUMMIFIED BULLS?