Brazil revolution (?) Information and links as they appear. (livestreams, links and images)

Originally posted by IamAbeliever
The people are waking up. In European and South American nations, the government fears the people. Here in America, however, the people fear the government. Any uprising like this would be immediately met with violent police opposition here in "the land of the free".

Kudos to those whom have had enough of lawless governments. I stand in support of them.

Maybe you are not aware but this type of thing is has been common in both Europe and South America. Pretty common in the US at times as well.

tiocfaidh ar la my friends.
our day will come.

don't back down from the truth. we are free and beautiful human beings.
turn your back on your strawmen that they created when your
parents signed your birth certificate.

the social contract is broken.

Do we not have any ATS-ers, out of those millions of people protesting who can give us 'on the scene reporting?'

I would really like to hear from someone who is among them. I admit I skimmed the posts in this thread (and the other one) rather quickly-- but only because I was looking specifically for someone saying, "hey I'm in the thick of it, and here's an update!" ...or words to that effect.

So nobody with a smart phone there is even tweeting or anything? Please forgive me if I overlooked a post about this.

Canadian MSM say its all happening because of a 10c increase of public transport fare. They even call it the public transport crisis or something along these lines. Makes you wonder !

The riots start about the +0,20 cents on the bus, but thanks God It took dimension and now people are complaining about other stuff... It's not just about the world cup etc..

Brazil Is the country In the world with the highest taxes but the population never see the money, the money does not arrive to hospitals, schools, security... the money just disappears (ROBED!!!)

Originally posted by MrMaybeNot
Canadian MSM say its all happening because of a 10c increase of public transport fare. They even call it the public transport crisis or something along these lines. Makes you wonder !

This is not about a fare increase. no way would that many people be out on the streets just because of a hike in transport fares!

I just viewed the video which contains scenes of people on top of the 'Congress' building.

There are Police inside the building but seem to be too scared to go out and confront the people! I'm not surprised really, I think they will get butchered!

The French Revolution background was something like what is happening right now in Brazil: rising food prices and an inadequate transportation system.

It was the last drop, so to say. You have to be of a lower class here in Brazil (and that's not hard, because it's the majority of the population) to understand what's going on. The taxes that the brazilian pays are horrendous. We work about 5 months of the year just to pay them. And we get nothing in return: no decent health care, no security, no schools, a poor infrastructure for everything, (from housing and internet connection to highways and transportation).

Many people are still fighting for the R$0,20 cents in São Paulo, but through Brazil rose a feeling that, finally, someone did something and everyone wants to join them.

Watch this and you can have an idea of how our country is like:

I'm a brazilian. If you have any questions please aks.

It's a long history of events that culminated in riots:
- Corruption have reached the highest level in our history ("mensalão", etc)
- The secular state is threatened by the increasing participation of religion in politics.
- Crime is dominating the country. There is a homicide rate of 20.4 for 100.000 habitants (USA is 4.8). Brazil is the lager consumer of crack in the world.
- We pay scandinavian taxes for 3rd country public services (U$ 690 billion dollars in 2012, 35% of GDP). The same Honda Civic that cost U$ 17000 in USA costs U$35000 in Brazil (just an example thats not a public demand, but an made in brazil car costs much less in any other country)
- And mostly, the world cup and olympics. The cost is EXPECTED to be U$40 billion , while people are lacking education and other essential services. There is no infrastructure for such events.

The tip of the ice berg was the brutal repression from Sao Paulo police, attacking the protestors and journalists on the R$0,20 public transportation riots. Keep in mind that a new bus and subway systems were promised to be imporoved for the world cup and olympics.

There've been major riots in almost every state capital (São Paulo, Rio, Brasilia, Belo Horizonte, Curitiba, Salvador, Vitória, etc) The mainstrains media is downsing the numbers.

Here is a nice video with a journalist that have been shot in the eye by the police, just activate the youtube subtitles:

www.youtube.com...

There's plenty information on the internet, but you mus search in portuguese.
You can easily find livestreams from every city. Tomorrow Thursday, 7pm in Brazil, there will be new protests.

To those who might be wondering, this is nothing to do with the fare rise (that's being used as a line to us to make it seem pathetic and an overreaction, our governments and media don't want to tell us what this is really about because it might make us think about doing the same), this is about systematic corruption, the kind of sh*t we all see happening in our own countries, and do nothing about but complain.

This is about a minority in the elite class lording it over the "peasants" and securing themselves at the cost of the public. This is happening all over the world and it's the reason your government and mine is building armaments in major cities, steel walls that can be moved around to form a defense, monitoring millions of people, watching protest groups and infiltrating them, branding "political materials" as suspicious, violently arresting political protesters, creating laws for curfews and expansion of policing...

These people have the nads to actually stand up and do something about it, while our citizens are barely able to turn off their BS TV long enough to realize what's happening.

I've been watching some footage of the attack on the Prefeitura in São Paulo, and it's dramatic to say the least.

One thing that occurred to me is, when a government has to scurry and hide like roaches as the masses rise up, there is no longer any credibility in that government. Unless the government there stands down soon, this is only going to get far worse.

reply to post by RalagaNarHallas


Oh yes this is the final straw, Dilma says that she Is listening to the voice of the people!!
It takes so long to make her first speech and then she says something like this, sometimes it's the fear of rebellion and that the people will get out of control ,that the people take her out off the power. (Something that in my opinion would be 100% beneficial to the people and Brazil).

Dilma says:
"The size of yesterday's marches is evidence of the strength of our democracy."

Democracy? They alter the results of the elections.. Its already prooved .. BRAZIL IS A DICTATORSHIP!

The article says:
Many of the headlines in recent years about about Brazilians have been lifted millions out of poverty ... But for many Brazilians raised the expectations of the not seem to have been matched by results "

With the money that Brazil generates today, It was suposed to be already a country of the first world with security, education, health ... The government makes the minimun that they can .. but still tries to do less if possible!


The people need to make the move and take away all this rottenness of the government to create laws that prevent convicted politicians to get reelected!

The article says:
"Towards the end of the evening in Rio, there were violent clashes between groups of protesters and police."

And for those who did not see actually what started the problem were not Protestants, and Dilma still has the courage to say that alongside the Brazilians ..

THAT makes me SICK!

Im living In italy for 10 months now and I say, even If I need to stay illegal here (now Im legal.. but I just have 2 months more of visa..) I will never come back to that dictatorship that Is Brazil now If this revolution stops, Im tired.. really tired!

This is great.

The Brazilian Congress and Senate, and also every one of the public elected offices, are costly. A UN study put Brazil's representatives as the 2nd or 3rd most costly in a one-time worldwide survey. They cost millions per year, while the minimum wage is $4000/year (today). So there is a great gulf between classes. The politicians usually only dedicate themselves to being insiders to the political power, which is easy when you can manipulate the media. The media today is alarmed, but it's not looking at the big picture, with a critical view.

The population are directing their frustration towards the public offices. Mayor's House, Governor's House, local Assemblies, all were attacked. Even a Sub-Mayor's office was targeted today in São Paulo, which has 31 Sub-Mayors. A mayor in Juazeiro had to be escorted by the police after being cornered by over 8,000 people, a great part teachers, demanding better wages and work conditions (link). The money that should be directed to education is often diverted to the pockets of politicians and their associates. So there is a great popular feeling that we're just fed up! And even if the bus fares go down, we'll keep protesting, because change is needed!

We also have a great problem in Brazil which is illiteracy. Unlike Cuba and Venezuela, we have not been able to seriously lower illiteracy. Public schools have students over 13, 14, who barely learned how to read. That is, if they stay in class because there's barely enough money to have a good blackboard and chalk sticks. So many people are uninformed about what goes on with their tax money, which is a great burden upon the people. Meanwhile the richest people in Brazil can park their money in Miami, in the Bahamas, in Europe and other countries, assisted by the international banking cartel that can solve any problem... There is strong evidence of insider profits from privatization, and we still don't have open oversight of the contracts involved in the World Cup. The costs are bigger than the biggest social equality programs, Bolsa Familia, a worldwide example of pulling people out of poverty while stimulating education, but while Bolsa Familia is accepted, the World Cup's infrastructure plans do not represent the true needs of the cities. They will help the logistics of a huge event, but they will build infrastructure that does not assess the true mobility needs of the cities, while postponing or even going over previous projects that could do so.

It's a pretty big mess. But now the people are on the streets discussing these issues. This is a pretty open opportunity to open the eyes of the population to the reality of the political power and to their own power to change it...

Turkey and now Brazil.They keep spreading world wide.Looks like people are just getting fed up with governments corruption and greed and power.

For those who don't have access to the live feeds, things are definitely out of hand in Brazil.

I have photos from (Sao Paulo?) and they show riot police shooting tear gas and demonstrators setting fires. It looks like Istanbul all over again. I haven't seen water cannons yet or lasers being used to annoy police.

I'll upload some screen grabs when I can get into the uploads page. ATS servers might be having trouble handling that link right now, cause I can't get in.

Edit:

www.livestream.com...

reply to post by SomeoneWatching

The same sort of things are going on all over the world now. People are waking up to the amount of thievery that goes on in the nicer social classes. These oligarchies in the world should start to leave a little more on the table for everyone else if they want nice peaceful countries where people go to work and create wealth.

They should start to pay their taxes. They should stop sheltering trillions of dollars offshore. They are like rats hitting the pleasure button in a lab until they die. They don't understand how dangerous things are getting.

They all think there is room for one more thief in the lifeboat, but the lifeboat is starting to capsize. These people need to get some discipline.

Are you sure this livestream is live.Looks like it is live news coverage of riots and protesting that has happened all ready.

reply to post by Jobeycool

I think they keep recycling it. They go to events that happened earlier in the day in different places.

You see marching and chanting, etc. but as the day wore on you got into the tear gas and bonfires and arrests.

So, yeah, finding actual "live" sections might depend on fluency in Portugese.

I just read that Rio and Sao Paulo are revoking the bus fare increase.

www.reuters.com... &dlvrit=992637

It remains unclear whether revoking the fare increases, which followed similar fare cuts in other state capitals, will be enough to quell the unrest. Initially focused in cities like Sao Paulo, Rio and Brasilia, demonstrations have spread, with protests planned in more than 70 smaller cities for Thursday.

After the fare increase was scrapped, leaders of the protest movement in Sao Paulo said their cause would now shift to free public transport and that a planned protest for Thursday would be a celebration.

I hope that solves the problem, but somehow I don't think it will.

Couldn't have they waiting 'til after the World Cup?!

Originally posted by FromMyColdDeadBrain
Couldn't have they waiting 'til after the World Cup?!

The World Cup is part of the problem. They don't think that much money should be spent on the World Cup when things are so miserable in the society with basic services.