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Woman Denied US Citizenship Because of Atheism

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posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:03 PM
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wtf you don't have anything to say




posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:05 PM
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Oh no, friend. I am rarely short on words. I just fail to see a point in your previous post.

Every religion has its fanatics. Christianity included (see the KKK as it is first to come to mind).

Your post reads as little more than uneducated bigotry to be honest.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:06 PM
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I'm not an atheist.
And you have no idea how I know what I'm talking about.
Good luck with your kids.


edit on 17-6-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:08 PM
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I know you aren't an atheist. You made that abundantly clear in the first post I responded to on this thread.

Doesn't mean you don't use the same arguments as a militant atheist.


Keep it classy, babe.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:09 PM
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it's not uneducated they are the religions most likely to use violence to force their agendas on the world all of them judaism, christianity, islam they all represent the same kind of hate



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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Originally posted by truthontheloose
reply to post by JayinAR
 


it's not uneducated they are the religions most likely to use violence to force their agendas on the world all of them judaism, christianity, islam they all represent the same kind of hate


You had it right in your first post when you stated: CONTROL

Ideology is not about hate, it's about control.

Get the masses to think a like. Get the ideology of the masses to convert everyone to the same thought. So they can be controlled.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:15 PM
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I would argue Governments are the cause and religion is the tool. Only ignorant fanatics buy into the BS.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:20 PM
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yes it is about control but it is intolerance for diversity that leads to the desire for control example
someone thinks something that a another person does not like so he tries gain control of that other person to make him stop
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posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:21 PM
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No. It is resources and women that lead to the desire for control. Simple fact.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:27 PM
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It is resources and women that lead to the desire for control. Simple fact.

Resources and WOMEN lead to the desire for control?
Wow.
"Simple fact" according to whom, please? :shk:

And don't call me "babe". Please.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:31 PM
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Don't imply I am a lousy parent for no good effing reason.
You treat me with respect and I will reply in kind. Promise.

Sources? Women? Helen of Troy
Resources? Every war ever fought.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by truthontheloose
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yes it is about control but it is intolerance for diversity that leads to the desire for control example
someone thinks something that a another person does not like so he tries gain control of that other person to make him stop


Who's intolerance of diversity?

I've kinda lost track. Was atheists being anti-religion in there somewhere? Atheist means one thing only. It does not mean anti-god or anti- religion.

Atheists are individuals with only one thing connecting them -- lack of belief in a god.

The main organized atheist group in America -- has a main goal of separation of church and state. BECAUSE we are a secular government.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:49 PM
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may point was the government wants as few people who think differentially then they do in this country



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by truthontheloose
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may point was the government wants as few people who think differentially then they do in this country


I really don't agree with that.

How would you govern billions of people. How would you provide "individualism" to billions of people in your care?

Complaint/criticizing -- provides no solution. What is your solution?



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 08:55 PM
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That goes without saying though, doesn't it?
I mean heck, just look at the word government. Govern. Control. Government. A controlling organization.

It is a little hard to control someone who thinks you're a total arsehole and isn't afraid to express it. Just ask wildtimes over there. It is pretty apparent she isn't too accustomed to people who disagree.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 09:01 PM
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I am curious about hearing more about how this story illustrates an Islamic conspiracy honestly.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 09:08 PM
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not just a Islamic conspiracy but a christian and jewish conspiracy in general a monotheism conspiracy to them you most believe in one god not many gods or no god but just one god and only the god that middle eastern religions subscribe to



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 09:32 PM
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I don't buy it though.
Sure there are loads of Abrahamic believers in the Western world, but there are loads elsewhere who do not subscribe to those ideologies. As it stands now, sure the Governments would love it if things stayed the way they were, but it isn't necessary.
They can easily adapt. Heck, look at Obama. He is obviously a Muslim, but here in 'Merica he just talks up the Christer game. It works.

As I said before, this story isn't one of religion as much as it is one of legality and war machines.

And to be honest, you called it out as a Muslim conspiracy. Did you not?



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 09:33 PM
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Also, Christianity isn't monotheistic. No matter what the Christers say, it simply isn't.



posted on Jun, 17 2013 @ 09:34 PM
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no i called it an Arabic religions conspiracy all three of the middle eastern religions fall under that group



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