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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by BenReclused
Now that I am on an actual computer, I will kindly answer your questions:
Would you, kindly, explain why/how a God,THAT DOESN'T EXIST, could/would, possibly want something, or EVEN BE "in a position to procure it in any way that amuses them"?
Oh, I'm taking my cues from a work of relative fiction known as the Bible. Again, just as one would refer to Harry Potter, so I refer to "God"...but not with nearly so much reverence and respect. I rather wish the god of the Bible were based on Harry Potter's character profile. I see more humility and compassion in Harry than I ever saw in Yahuwah.
Your "answer" didn't explain how a non existent "entity" could possibly want something, or even be in a position to procure it. That's ALL that my question was about.
Perhaps a better question would be:
Why are you assigning REAL blame, to what you feel is someone else's "imaginary friend"?
If people want to accept a pre-packaged religion, that's their choice and decision based on their unique experience and needs.
“Men have such a good opinion of
themselves, of their mental
superiority and intellectual depth;
they believe themselves so skilled in
discerning the true from the false, the
path of safety from those of error, that they should be forbidden as
much as possible the perusal of
― Abu Hamid al-Ghazali
Many of them see things they NEVER
expected to see.
Right back at you, bro. Right back at
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by logical7
You know what? Dammit, logical7, why can't you be consistent?? We are conversing on several different threads - in one you tell me you agree with me and that I'm a good person, and in another you accuse me of being judgmental and claiming I am "superior"?
Pick a stance, and stick with it across the board (pun intended). You think I'm full of crap and wrong? Or you think I have sound ideas and morals? Which is it???? Does it just depend on which shirt you're wearing on any given day?
What mood you're in?
Or do you just want me to repeat myself over and over for the benefit of others who you hope to 'teach' Islam to, so THEY will reject me?
I don't know what game this is you're playing, but I'm tired of you changing the rules that you just make up as you go along.
edit on 24-6-2013 by wildtimes because: (no reason given)
And by those standards, how do you feel about the topic material?
so you admit that we both have equal possibility of being wrong but you lose much more if you are wrong?
That's because they are firmly grounded in what is obvious. We are here in this World. Things are necessary for survival. No hypothetical higher anything detracts from that.
Two people can have the
same creed, same holy book, same ritual, and yet be at different ends of
Do I know everything? Absolutely not! But I do know that some religions(as personal, not purely ritualistic) tend to promote humanity, whereas others degrade. Two people can have the same creed, same holy book, same ritual, and yet be at different ends of the spectrum.
I don't see the disagreements as a frustating thing. Why do you?
My stand is pretty clear, "I am a Muslim"
do you expect me to agree with you on everything to make you feel accepted? I know you don't.
So whats the problem?
I'm not upset apparently you are seeing things that aren't there.
You wouldn't be religious by any chance?
Could you explain in more detail how you came to your current position the matter?
How was such righteousness unfounded?
But it still doesn't prove God exists. It only proves the uncertainties of absolute truth. And considering that God is considered absolute truth, wouldn't that prove the uncertainties of God as well?
It only proves the uncertainties of absolute truth.
Originally posted by shells4u
reply to post by AfterInfinity
Are you boasting about your persuasive skills? If so its like boasting about how you turned your lover gay.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
This morning, he declared: "I feel like a new man! A gnostic atheist!" I questioned him on the gnostic part, and he voiced his opinion that it can be proven that there is no god. While I hesitate at the use of the word 'proven', I am proud of his new-found confidence and self-esteem.