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Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Dunno what that has to do with anything, but it sounds off topic, so I'm gonna leave it alone.
Perfect! The NEW entry to the Babes of Roller Rink Derbyism Las Vegas Style. "The Atheists", Featuring accidental elbowing, EGO brusing, tripping each other up, falling all over themselves and causing unintentional black eyes. After the game, coach says "calm down children, it was just a game--but you forgot all about the OTHER team you were competiting against--The Copasetic Dragons".
Wild. Chill out. Explain. Imagine that Serdgiam is one of those kids you like to help and realize that his understanding is only as good as you help it to be.
No, you want proof of God thats why you are an Atheist, that is why you do not believe in its exsistance.
Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Carl Jung felt very strongly that we need to throw off the "mass-man" and, have a working theological framework. in order to enter the fray with our entire being. There's no other way that isn't entirely self-centered and ego-centric.
Originally posted by vethumanbeing
The problem with many is they think this is supposed to be easy. YOU HAVE TO SEARCH for it, its a deeply personal quest. Those that want the immediate OF COURSE will not experence it as they havent bothered to look within themselves. Its not about scripture (for some it helps as guidance toward the goal of having a suggestion it exists).
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Perfect! The NEW entry to the Babes of Roller Rink Derbyism Las Vegas Style. "The Atheists", Featuring accidental elbowing, EGO brusing, tripping each other up, falling all over themselves and causing unintentional black eyes. After the game, coach says "calm down children, it was just a game--but you forgot all about the OTHER team you were competiting against--The Copasetic Dragons".
What?
What the hell are you getting at here, vet? Okay, yeah. I'm done. I'm not bruised, influenced, delusional, or fanatical.If you choose not to acknowledge that, then...I'm done here.
Why do you take everything so personally?
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by vethumanbeing
And also, pal, I am NOT AN ATHEIST.
gha
There's no other way that isn't entirely self-centered and ego-centric.
You seem to be very materialistic and need tangible evidence.
It has not succeeded in seducing you, or is it the other way around; or has not shown interest. So, you (in your mind spurned). You also are smart enough to know this was a "do you still beat your wife" question, you dodged it congrates.
No material evidence of a creator will satisfy the atheist.
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by NewAgeMan
There's no other way that isn't entirely self-centered and ego-centric.
I see no point in denying the self. There is no other without a self to observe it from.
No, you want proof of God thats why you are an Atheist, that is why you do not believe in its exsistance.
charles1952
Consider, for a moment, perpetual motion machines. Threads on that show up here every now and then in different forms. I don't even bother looking at them. I know they violate rules of physics and have been shown to not satisfy scientists, yet there remain some who insist it does exist.
Could AfterInfinity be in the same situation? In his mind God can not be possible, therefore any and all evidence to the contrary must be false, even if he can't show why. Since the evidence is false by definition, his decision is already made and is unshakable, like mine with perpetual motion machines.
It's not a perfect analogy, as scientists still take the time to look at such machines, and the machines are bound by natural law. But I wonder if the thinking is the same. With respect Charles1952
The spirit and the freedom of the spirit is a non-local phenomenon, the self just a projection and one that dies with the body. Nevertheless the truth of Christianity is that we are fully loved and accepted as we are, and met where we are at, and hugged (enveloped) by God, provided we come to our senses and make a return path towards home.