Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by halfoldman
Since Homosexuality has nothing to do with this, as I think you indicated you agree... Is it about destroying their Soul or essence in that violation?
Or worse when they plan or know it's possible they'll kill the victim anyway? I simply could/would never think about sexually assaulting anyone in
any situation, let alone the ones you're citing and that one in Libya. Whats the point of the action?
It reminds me of the FSA "rebel" who "ate" the heart of a Syrian fighter - it's about total humiliation and complete control, in my opinion.
When you look at male/female rape too, a lot of the time it's about power and not about sex. Many men who do this to women could have voluntary
sexual partners, they could pay for it if they had to, but that doesn't satisfy the need for total control over another, or the enjoyment of
I've looked at this psychological issue before and used the Nazis as an example when describing it. In WW2 hundreds of thousands of men became
monsters, seeing their "enemy" as sub-human. Not even their enemy in fact, just those they were given complete control over. Those who did such
despicable things weren't like that before they became a soldier, they were encouraged into it through authority or peer pressure, they had a need to
follow instruction and just be one of the group.
Then there's that study carried out in the 70's at an American university where a psychology professor split student volunteers into prisoners and
guards, and quickly saw those with unaccountable power become sadists. It was a shocking experiment that gained a lot of attention for the extremes of
what happened to normal and intelligent young people.
We've seen the same thing with American troops in Iraq, and even those involved couldn't explain their actions properly.
There was another recent example carried out by Derren Brown (UK Illusionist, or "mentalist" for want of a better word) where he had volunteers
electrocuting someone in another room under instruction from someone in a white lab coat. The presence of an authority figure telling them what to do
almost absolved them of personal morals and responsibility. Of course they weren't really electrocuting anyone, they could just hear an actor
screaming, but most of them kept increasing the power under instruction without questioning it, even well beyond the point of it being lethal.
I think there are two types of people in this regard - those who absolutely refuse to abandon their own morals and Humanity, and those who have an
innate weakness which makes them prone to sadism. It could just be about control and the eagerness to follow instructions, but I think there is a
personality problem here. I think wanting to belong to a group or feeling personally weak is at the core of it.
I know for a fact that I would not act in such a way. I can say that with 100% certainty, but I know there must be a lot of others who are weaker
mentally and morally.
I think another related psychological example is those who act first in an emergency. We've probably all seen examples of it, and there is a name for
the process too, but when you have a group of people and something happens, often it'll take someone to react before others then get involved.
There's a few YouTube videos out there that show this. Like CCTV from subway systems when someone falls on the tracks. The platform could be filled
with people, but there's often a pause, and then one strong-willed person acts, and suddenly others join in to act too. It's almost like they need
permission or someone to follow to tell them that it's right and proper to do something.
Either way, I think this is a specific psychological and behavioral issue related to weakness of morality, and I think it's found in many people to a
certain degree. Those who are more willing to speak up and risk being ostracized from a group about something they know is wrong will not likely ever
act in such a sadistic way, while those who would "not get involved" or just follow orders are probably more prone to becoming a psychopath.
I don't know if there is a link, but I imagine that most members here would be on the right side of this, because we question. We're not afraid to
be different and step out of the bounds of what "the masses" say and do. I believe those with a sense of individuality and a questioning mind are
I guess you can tell that Human behavior and psychology are a slight interest of mine.