I began writing this thread with a completely different premise than what it has turned out to be....
I was recently in a heated debate with my son who is presently studying Chemistry, Material science and who has a strong understanding of Quantum and
Particle physics. While discussing [Arguing] the finer points of contention a thought occurred to me which began another avenue of interest which
I'll try to convey and share with you here today.
No this wont be a long read but hopefully one which will spur interest and an interesting topic to discuss/debate. So once more out of the box we go.
Man is NOT presently the most sophisticated he has ever been, not by a long shot. Oh, sure, we have plenty of high-tech modern electronics and a
better understanding of the Micro, Macro and even of the Multi but in the end what have we really obtained?
Better ways of polluting ourselves and our environment?
How about storing and retrieving knowledge/data?
I'd be willing to challenge those who believe we are the end all be all to take their most modern sophisticated hand held device and I'll take an
already 5,000 year old Sumerian tablet and we both bury them in the desert sand for another 5,000 years. Which do you believe would fair better?
How about simply trying to convey an understanding or a concept to another future group who may not know our language or points of reference? How do
we project our knowledge?
I'll be presenting several examples of the Ancients doing just that. These are not directly related to one another but they do give fine example of
what I'm talking about. Here we see ancient people conveying what they knew and preserving them in a manner that we here in the 21st century marvel
at. We marvel not just at what they knew but how simply and efficiently they were able to pass forward to us their knowledge and understanding of the
world around them.
Sumerian Star Chart 3300BC
Sumerian "planisphere" or star map was recovered in Iraq in the late 19th Century from an underground library of Ashurbanipal in Nineveh (650BC) It
was thought to be an Assyrian tablet, computer analysis has supposedly matched it with the sky above Mesopotamia at or about 3300BC which may prove it
to be of a much more ancient Sumerian origin. The tablet is an "Astrolabe" [Possibly the earliest example of what is known as a astronomical
Unfortunately considerable parts of the planisphere are missing I've read as high as 40%. Apparently believed to be the result of the damage which
may have been the result of the sacking of Nineveh. It's still being studied by modern scholars, the planisphere provides tangible evidence of just
how sophisticated Sumerian astronomy was..
I think the Sumerians really had their act together at one time and we -Modern man- should be humbled by their accomplishments.
Here is an an example of a simple computing device which does not need to be powered nor programmed. Once made it will function presently as it once
did back when there were no hand held powered devices doing the work for us. I'm reminded of the old NASA nerd in his thick rimmed glasses and short
sleeved shirt using his slide rule for some odd reason.
Ancient Minoan-era 'computer'
Researcher cites ancient Minoan-era 'computer'
(ANA-MPA) -- The Minoan civilisation on pre-Classical Crete discovered the first rudimentary analog computer in mankind's history, according to
researcher Minas Tsikritsis, an academic who specialises in ancient Aegean writing systems.
Tsikritsis, who also hails from Crete -- where the Bronze Age Minoan civilization flourished from approximately 2700 BC to 1500 century BC --
maintains that the Minoan Age object discovered in 1898 in Paleokastro site, in the Sitia district of western Crete, preceded the heralded
"Antikythera Mechanism" by 1,400 years, and was the first analog and "portable computer" in history.
"While searching in the Archaeological Museum of Iraklion for Minoan Age findings with astronomical images on them we came across a stone-made
matrix unearthed in the region of Paleokastro, Sitia. In the past, archaeologists had expressed the view that the carved symbols on its surface are
related with the Sun and the Moon,"
Finally, I'll include this geoglyph as well. It has been posted several times here at ATS before and it's true meaning is still a bit of a mystery.
Now is this a failure on their part to convey what they wanted us to know or is it (as I suspect) a failure on our part understating it's true
meaning and context?
Enigma of the Sun-Star and Cross (Mandala)
Link: Larger image
Enigma of the Sun-Star and Cross
Stretching across the Nazca plains like a giant map or blueprint left by ancient astronauts, lie the famous Nazca Lines of Peru.
Peru is associated with the Inca Civilization.
The Nazca Lines are an engima. No one has proof who built them or why. Since their discovery, the Nazca Lines have inspired fantastic explanations
from ancient gods, a landing strip for returning aliens, a celestial calendar created by the ancient Nazca civilization — putting the creation of
the lines between 200 BC and 600 AD, used for rituals probably related to astronomy, to confirm the ayllus or clans who made up the population and to
determine through ritual their economic functions held up by reciprocity and redistribution, or a map of underground water supplies.
In the end we really haven't advanced all that much when it comes to conveying knowledge. Oh, sure, we use different materials and attempt to be a
bit more sophisticated in our approach but in the end it's all about keeping it simple.