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I have talked to him, Ive also spoken to Jesus (snickers are allowed).
Lucifer lost the battle because he did not TRUST GOD to be a good father and that distrust let to the whole enlightenment debacle. (oh, and that turned out well for Jesus as he actually trusted Gods words to him; look where that landed him).
Lucifer was the smarter brother. God is no ones savior, where have you gained that ideaform?
Lucifers distrust in the angelic system lead him not astray from God, just questioning Gods intent/motive for creating MAN (would make a good civil rights lawyer in this day). You have to have a VAGUE belief system in god to care about this esoteric conversation.
Deetermined
Unfortunately, I'm seeing a lot of Luciferians claiming they speak to Jesus, but Lucifer is a deceiver now. The Jesus that Luciferians speak to isn't the same one we know from the Bible and spreads a different message.
It's good to know that this whole "love and light" enlightenment that everyone seems to be really getting into is really coming from Lucifer.Remember, even Satan is capable of disguising himself as an angel of light.
Lucifer lost the battle because he did not TRUST GOD to be a good father and that distrust let to the whole enlightenment debacle. (oh, and that turned out well for Jesus as he actually trusted Gods words to him; look where that landed him).
deeterminded
Why do you consider the enlightenment movement a debacle? You know he's deceiving people?
Jesus said he came to die for his sheep so that they could have eternal life with him. What's wrong with that? It beats Lucifer's future.
Lucifer has morals.
Lucifer could never userp God, because he was the child not the Creator.
deetermined Lucifer has morals.
Personally, I think Lucifer just wants everyone to believe he has morals in order to fool them regarding who the real Jesus is. That's why we're going to witness this new "love and light" message expanding. As long as everyone believes they're saved by loving each other, who needs Jesus, right?
What is your take on Lucifer's morals and why he keeps them if he already knows he's bound for the dust?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Lucifer could never userp God, because he was the child not the Creator.
That didn't keep him from trying.
As the Creator, why would you think God would dupe Jesus as well as all humans?
I had to do a cleansing on Jesus that I did not have to do with his brother.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by vethumanbeing
I had to do a cleansing on Jesus that I did not have to do with his brother.
What did that entail and what was it's purpose?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by vethumanbeing
First of all, Jesus is God and the Creator of all things in heaven and on earth, so Lucifer deceived you there.
Like you said, Lucifer is a NOBODY, in spirit or in the physical and would love nothing more than to have everyone believe that he's not doomed and is in competition with Jesus, when Jesus was indeed his Creator.
Jesus is not God, in as much as I am God, he would not come close.
Jesus is no ones creator he never even had a child of his own or figured out his sexuality and proper manly relationships to women of the FLESH and BONE; allowed himself to be murdered and his bone box found in Joseph of Arametheas Tomb "between two hills" is no consolation.
Because this Creator was evil turned south at some point and wanted the human energy to devour; why? to Usurp its Own creator.
Jesus is not God, in as much as I am God, he would not come close.
Jesus is no ones creator he never even had a child of his own or figured out his sexuality and proper manly relationships to women of the FLESH and BONE; allowed himself to be murdered and his bone box found in Joseph of Arametheas Tomb "between two hills" is no consolation.
deetermined
That's just it. God wouldn't defile himself in the same ways we would. There was no reason for it. He knew what his purpose on earth was for.
Jesus said he came to sacrifice himself for his children. He allowed the crucifixion. It wall a part of the plan.
A bone box has not been truly identified. All they know is that there were other "Jesus''" back in that time due to finding at least three or four others by the same name in bone boxes.
Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by arpgme
I intuitively see Jesus and Lucifer as twins brothers. Jesus the nice one and the Lucifer the mirror opposite. Lucifer was envious of Jesus and wanted him out the way.
What the bible doesn't tell us is that Mary had twins Jesus and Lucifer. The bible was constructed to retell the story to hide this from us.
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by vethumanbeing
Is that what Lucifer told you? That Jesus was born from rape?