a random comment from before that really caught my attention
Intresting you throw a hebrew word (translated) into an english translation. My bible does says "God" where you transposed Elohim. It's like
saying, "The child played with the 'iyshown.", "The stars shine during 'iyshown." "'Iyshown" is hebrew for "ball" or "middle of the night" and
"pupil", see how the meanings change?
thanks for using that word "iyshown" in that context.. it smacked me in the head
middle of the night = darkness
pupil = eye(ball)
the eyes are the gateway to the soul
hebrew amazes me.. once heard a reference that it's probably the best qualifier for what we might consider an alien language. but i think alien as in
unknown, not understood. language encodes information and the way hebrew does seems to be quite clever and intricate. it's also interesting how the
words kind of stack to get expanded meanings but i suppose the same can be said of all languages..
reply to post by arpgme
I think the award goes to Yahweh for "the most brutal murderer". (The Flood, The Wars, The Realm of Hell, The supposed coming Apocalypse).
Those who support "God" are supporting such enslavement and violence. The only thing I agree with is some of what Jesus said. Everything else is
either a lie or supporting violence and control/imposing on anothers free-will. "Spiritual Renegade" resonates as Truth for me. That is the way.
Individuality and forming your own belief and path is the way, in my humble opinion.
i actually think i get where you're coming from?
this is what i think, about taking onboard the whole bible.. you did indicate flood, wars, hell, apocalypse, everything so i'm assuming you're talking
about the whole bible God, right?
you instantly identify the God as a murderer, and a brutal one.. did the commandment say thou shall not kill or thou shall not murder? what do you
think of parts like genesis 6:4, where it's telling you humans were mingled with the sons of God? do you think these hybrid offspring are maybe
connected to the evil in noah's days? hence the flood? to remove the corrupted human line. some of those brutal wars afterward to remove the remnant
of the hybrid seed?
hell, is that the garbage dump? or hades? this probably sounds like the limbo place jesus minstered briefly to, maybe a place to contain those
renegade fallen angels? (temporarily?) the bible says when a man dies he knows nothing and is no more.. it claims there will be a resurrection at some
future time and then that man seems to live again.. according to all this there is no spirituality as such, only demonic activity. there apparently is
another deeper layer to this hell (tarterus) the bottomless pit in revelation, where the anti-christ.. well, i'm rambling a bit here
you say if we support this we support (meaningless?) enslavement and violence? ..but it seems like some kind of cosmic-scale temporary quarantine has
been initiated (hell seems a bit like a sterile rubbish bin...) the bottomless pit seems to be some kind of incinerator (lake of fire) i'm getting
sloppy on some of this, yeah. the earth is the lab and the experiment seems to be us (humans) ..a kind of distilling or sorting/testing process?
the parable of the wheat field (matthew 13?) tells how an enemy came in and sowed tares in amongst the wheat (wheat = mankind) that enemy is guilty,
the wheat that was growing isn't guilty but has to be eventually sorted from the tares (and the tares are like goats/wolves whereas the wheat are like
you said you only agree with some
of what Jesus said? ..i think it's all or nothing.. if maybe you accept the involvement of these fallen
angels in the story, maybe you can see why things need to be so harsh? see Ephesians 6:12 also
you say, "Everything else is either a lie or supporting violence and control/imposing on anothers free-will."
they (supposed satanists) say "do as thou will shall be the whole of the law"
"Spiritual Renegade" resonates as Truth for me. That is the way. Individuality and forming your own belief and path is the way, in my humble
it's funny you use that word renegade, because that's what those original deserters are (those fallen angels) read Jude 1:6 "angels that kept not
their own principality, but left their proper habitation"
i forget the word used for habitation, but one of the apostles uses the same word when describing how we strive to be clothed with that same
(habitation) ..i hope this all means something to you. the bible says 'there is a way that seems right to a man but in the end leads only to death',
the world seems like a huge sick amusement park from what i can make out... i can understand why the bible says friendship with the world is enmity
apocalypse = revelation, unfolding, revealing, etc... this is all good stuff, not bad
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