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Genesis 3:5
“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”
Psalm 82:6
“I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’
John 10:30-35
"I and the Father are one.” Again his Jewish opponents picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus said to them, “I have shown you many good works from the Father. For which of these do you stone me?” “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.” Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’? [Psalm 82:6]"
Originally posted by FlyersFan
"By their fruit you shall know them" ....
Jesus isn't a fallen angel. He isn't a demon.
He expelled demons ... and a house divided can not stand.
So no .. Jesus isn't a fallen angel.
Originally posted by Siberbat
When Jesus quoted Psalm 82:6 in John 10:34, he was condemning the Pharisees as unrighteous leaders as well as confounding them, with the scriptures, about himself being the Son of God. It is illogical to think that the Pharisees believed they were gods when they were going to attack Jesus for saying he is God. The term elohiym was used as rulers or judges in this context.
The first reference to the morning star as an individual is in Isaiah 14:12: “How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!” (NIV). The KJV and NKJV both translate “morning star” as “Lucifer, son of the morning.” It is clear from the rest of the passage that Isaiah is referring to Satan’s fall from heaven (Luke 10:18). So in this case, the morning star refers to Satan. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus unmistakably identifies Himself as the morning star. Why are both Jesus and Satan described as the “morning star”?
It is interesting to note that the concept of the “morning star” is not the only concept that is applied to both Jesus and Satan. In Revelation 5:5, Jesus is referred to as the Lion of the tribe of Judah. In 1 Peter 5:8, Satan is compared to a lion, seeking someone to devour. The point is this, both Jesus and Satan, to a certain extent, have similarities to lions. Jesus is similar to a lion in that He is the King, He is royal and majestic. Satan is similar to a lion in that he seeks to devour other creatures. That is where the similarities between Jesus, Satan, and lions end, however. Jesus and Satan are like lions in very different ways.
The idea of a “bright morning star” is a star that outshines all the others. Satan, as perhaps the most beautiful creation of God, probably the most powerful of all the angels, was a bright morning star. Jesus, as God incarnate, the Lord of the universe, is THE bright and morning star. Jesus is the most holy and powerful “light” in all the universe. So, while both Jesus and Satan can be described as “bright morning stars,” in no sense is this equating Jesus and Satan. Satan is a created being. His light only exists to the extent that God created it. Jesus is the light of the world (John 9:5). Only Jesus’ light is self-existent. Satan may be a bright morning star, but he is only a poor imitation of the one true bright morning star, Jesus Christ, the light of the world.
The Bible says "In the beginning Elohim created the heavens and The Earth". God said "Let US create man in OUR image"...
Of course The Pharisees didn't believe they are Gods. The religious people never do. Jesus quoted Psalm 82:6 saying "Is it not written in The Law 'I said ye are Gods'?". Jesus was using that quote to explain himself when he called himself God, but The Pharisees did not care. They didn't want to believe they are Gods and they called Jesus blasphemous for saying so.
Originally posted by MamaJ
What IF we are ALL fallen angels?!
Maybe we come to earth only to rise with each incarnation in the physical world.
What if Jesus is the evolved "Lucifer"?
Originally posted by Siberbat
My bible does says "God" where you transposed Elohim.
Originally posted by Siberbat
The second part of your quote is reasonible proof for the trinity, "Let us create man in our (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) image."
“Is it not written in your Law, ‘I have said you are “gods”’[Psalm 82:6]?
Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by arpgme
My point is that Jesus was telling them that they were all children of God.
Yes, but that was not my point. My focus was the "ye are Gods" part which Jesus agreed with and accepted himself.