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Originally posted by devilwasp
Yes, I Know....but your are still traped in the War-Corpo-Facism-Legau that Thatcher made ground for..
Originally posted by Kollapse
Yes, you are, Read Pilger or Noam Chomsky and you figure it out.
Originally posted by devilwasp
right then........i take it this is one of these great "advisors" from the EU is it?
Originally posted by Kollapse
partly true, Pilger is from UK (BBC) and chomsky is from US.
Originally posted by devilwasp
care to give a link?
Originally posted by bigdanprice
TB will win a thitd time.
What are the alternatives? The conservatives are not a viable political force, since their defeat in 1997. There leader Michael Howard is still rememered for introducing the Poll Tax, the most unpopular move last century. Britons have a long memory they remember the boom and bust of the tory era. They drove the country into the ground.
Originally posted by bodrul
sh*t this topic has gone way off track
i made it to see what people's views were if blair stayed for a 3rd term not this rubbish
Originally posted by Kollapse
Originally posted by devilwasp
care to give a link?
Please, choose whatever you want, give me one that contadicts my claims.
www.google.com...
www.google.com...
Do a search of you own
[edit on 7-11-2004 by Kollapse]
From news article.
A WELSH MP's bid to bring down Prime Minister Tony Blair over the Iraq war takes a dramatic step forward today with the first publication of the impeachment motion......
....."When we initially raised the prospect of impeachment there were people who said the process no longer existed," he added.
"We can now conclusively prove that it is part of the constitution and it can be done. If this were political point scoring we could never have taken it this far."
His colleague, Meirionnydd Nant Conwy MP Elfyn Llwyd, added: "The publication of the text of the motion will put to bed accusations that impeachment was nothing but a silly season stunt. This is a real and serious course of action which we have not undertaken lightly.
"If we allow Tony Blair's actions to go unchallenged, a precedent will have been set that a UK Prime Minister can deceive the Welsh and UK public and parliament and get away with it," he added.
Link To Article
Originally posted by devilwasp
uhh dude all the first one does is say the war in iraq was illegal and i totaly agree , i think your trying to say that our gov is afraid of terrorism and our gov has been makeing it as bad as facism since that has been our biggest enemy.
Originally posted by UK Wizard
(this isn't aimed at anyone in particular)
Why aren't they a viable political force????
People should not live in the past, look at current policy rather than what the Tory's did 20 odd years ago.
New Labour will mean more political correctness, more waste, more buracracy....
from BBC NEWSWhen Michael Howard was catapulted into the job of Tory leader exactly one year ago, few believed he had any chance of leading his party to a general election victory. The opposition had been through a protracted period of civil war which had seen the "mods" and "rockers" - modernisers and traditionalists - knocking chunks out of each other, usually in the full glare of the media spotlight.Yet still the polls refused to budge and the near-euphoria of the conference rapidly evaporated.
There was a feeling of desperation as the party wondered what on earth it had to do, which hadn't already been tried, to get back into the game.
And that, just months from the next general election, is where things have largely remained.
Few Tories seriously doubt Mr Howard's abilities and few believe anyone else could have done more to revive their fortunes.
But, as he marks his first anniversary as party leader, Mr Howard will look hard for any signs that he can lead his party to victory at the next election.
AFTER A YEAR IN CHARGE HOWARD IS STILL FAILING TO IMPROVE TORY POLL RATING - TAYLOR
05/11/2004
Ahead of tomorrow's 1st anniversary of Michael Howard becoming Conservative Leader, Matthew Taylor MP, Liberal Democrat Parliamentary Party Chairman, today said that he had failed to hold the Government to account, let alone provide any realistic alternative to Labour.
Despite the unpopularity of Tony Blair's Government, the Conservatives remain almost 5% below their poll rating at the same stage in the last Parliament - which was followed by their second worst General Election defeat since 1835.
Commenting, Matthew Taylor MP said:
"After a year as party leader, Michael Howard has made absolutely no progress compared to Iain Duncan Smith. His party continue to flat-line in the polls.
"He has proved himself incapable of effectively holding the Government to account. It is small wonder that on issues such as pensions, crime, schools, hospitals, and the war in Iraq people are increasingly turning to the Liberal Democrats as the only effective alternative to Labour."
�When leading Conservatives say Michael Howard has been opportunistic over Iraq, and has the wrong policies on tax and public services, it�s little wonder that they are doing even worse than under Iain Duncan Smith.
Originally posted by Mynaeris
The only real question I have for the Brits on this board is "are there any term limits for a prime Minister?"
Originally posted by infinite
Anyways *read the title of thread*
Blair third term.....pffft pleeeeease
Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrats) is the best alternative choice to Tony Blair. Unlike Howard and the boys in blues, Lib Dems do not confuse the public on their views etc and their leader doesnt rip off other peoples speechs i.e Howard basically re-writtin Kilroys UK speech. Lib Dems all the way for me
Originally posted by bodrul
the only reason he was ever elected in 97 was of his hard stance against gun crimes ( by banning them )
so whats your views on this
Originally posted by bigdanprice
he is ahead in opinion polls.