10 Signs You're Living In A Police State

Greetings, ATS!

Found this interesting article on Discovery News and thought I'd share.

Visit the link for a full discussion of each point.

*Your government puts protesters in penal colonies

* Your leader has been president for several decades

*Your most famous national artist disappears

*Your 'democracy' excludes 90 percent of your citizens

* Your local news is provided by the state

* Your Internet access is curiously limited

*.Your government has cameras everywhere

* Your government is monitoring your Internet use

I don't think we are a police state in the US....but are we on our way? The last two points concern me. What say you, ATS?

Interesting.

I don't think the United States is a full on police state at present. However I feel they are dangerously close to it and the...structures are in place to make it so.

I fear it would only take another large scale terrorist attack along the lines of 9/11 for the descent into a police state to be complete.

This police state and authoritarianism is creeping, slowly and incrementally and has been doing ever since 9/11.

That is the danger. It's not where the President suddenly announces himself as dictator, but instead where it grows gradually without you hardly knowing.

There is a book called They thought they were free, written shortly after the Second World War. A number of everyday Germans are interviewed, where they reveal that they did not notice so much the creeping erosion of the rights and totalitarianism as they were told it was for their own security and in some cases didn't affect them directly. By the time they saw what had happened to the country it was too late...

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I think a few of the items might apply. I'm confused about this one though:

* Your Internet access is curiously limited

Limited how? As in speeds? As in restricted by filtering? Filtering comes from the ISP but the government has and will continue to issue block requests.

Speeds and coverage, on the other hand, lie solely on the ISP. The telcos started raising your rates in the 80s to pay for a new network to support the internet. They didn't build it, but they sure as hell took your money. That's why the US is ranked pretty low for access to and speed of internet connections.

Here's the thing, I'd normally say the first piece of evidence that you are not in a police state is the fact that you can come here and post this. But.... with recent events in mind..... You don't really have that freedom anymore, all of it is being collected, some of it being monitored.

I'd go so far as to call the US a quasi police state at this point. But the checkpoints and shocktroops, as of yet, haven't made an appearance, well, that is unless you were a member of OWS or any other group protesting anything.

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I fear it would only take another large scale terrorist attack along the lines of 9/11 for the descent into a police state to be complete.

Maybe. A domestic terror attack from blue eyed americans is what it would really take. Ok, maybe green eyed. The police state we'll get to see won't come in the form of protecting you from an outside esoteric threat. We've always been at war with Eurasia. We've never been at war with Eurasia.

No, it will be brought in because of domestic terrorists, your friends, your coworkers, everyone will be a potential threat.

We've already seen ample evidence that the spying, the taps, the patriot act, none of this protects you from them it protects them from you. All of this has been turned back on you, the american public, and by extension, the rest of us. For this to work, it's going to have to involve the major western powers, together. I know you may think the US is untouchable, but it aint, and your allies won't sit back and watch your country turn into a dictatorship, unless we're suffering the same fate.

My money is on a group of internet conspiracy lovers like us, listening to someone like alex jones, believing 911 was an inside job, taking it upon themselves to start bombing government buildings. A massive coordinated attack across several countries would do it. You know it would. And, bonus, they get to come after all of us, cause they hate us.

Interesting, not quite there yet but on our way.

I think that the reason our internet use isn't limited yet is because that way they can see just what we are searching. They want to know our interests, what we like, who we know etc... It gives them a bigger excuse to moniter us. They want to know if you are the type of person who is looking up things such as how to survive on your own. Where to go to get away from them....How to build weapons..How to this and how to that. who is buying up survival supplies and who has the knowledge to survive.

They also can figure out who is computer savvy and worth their time to look into for either employment or to get rid of. They can weed out who the so called brainiacs are and who the people without a clue are.

I think they know what they are doing as far as limiting computer use.

We definitely are already knee deep in the last two and as far as the whole protesters and penal colonies, I dont know much about them yet but I do keep hearing about fema camps so maybe??

Limited how? As in speeds? As in restricted by filtering? Filtering comes from the ISP but the government has and will continue to issue block requests.

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In some countries, like China (I believe). The Internet is controlled by the government. I might be wrong about this, but I read that China's Internet isn't linked to the world.

Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by smyleegrl

 

I think a few of the items might apply. I'm confused about this one though:

* Your Internet access is curiously limited

Limited how? As in speeds? As in restricted by filtering? Filtering comes from the ISP but the government has and will continue to issue block requests.

Speeds and coverage, on the other hand, lie solely on the ISP. The telcos started raising your rates in the 80s to pay for a new network to support the internet. They didn't build it, but they sure as hell took your money. That's why the US is ranked pretty low for access to and speed of internet connections.

Mine has recently been limited as in how much I can actually use. I have Armstrong cable internet and recently got a letter in the mail telling me that I had gone over my monthly allowance. I have/had never got anything that even told me that they had started a monthly allowance. I am now limited to 150gb a month in internet usage. I don't have cable or sat TV and mainly watch Netflix, in April alone between my daughter and I we used close to 500gb of internet. This allowance just started on May 1 and by May 15 I had already gone over my 150gb allowance. They charge $10 for every 50gb that you are over your usage.

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I take it you haven't been to China.

It happens like this: Type in a search that the ministry of propaganda doesn't like and you get a scary screen telling you the content is forbidden and if you do it again you might get in trouble. That goes for political stuff and any kind of porn.

I would say the biggest sign of living in a Police State is to look at how many Police Officers are found guilty of criminal action against members of the Public.

I don't know about the rest of the world, but here in the U.K the number of officers found guilty is extremely small. This includes unlawful killing and assault.

2 Words: Boston Lockdown!

Originally posted by smyleegrl
Greetings, ATS!

Found this interesting article on Discovery News and thought I'd share.

Visit the link for a full discussion of each point.

*Your government puts protesters in penal colonies

* Your leader has been president for several decades

*Your most famous national artist disappears

*Your 'democracy' excludes 90 percent of your citizens

* Your local news is provided by the state

* Your Internet access is curiously limited

*.Your government has cameras everywhere

* Your government is monitoring your Internet use

I don't think we are a police state in the US....but are we on our way? The last two points concern me. What say you, ATS?

Heck one or more of these items on the list can apply to pretty much every country on earth.

We might not be there yet but WDC wants us there.