I just think society is designed to rob money from people

here's a thought, and I could be way off base, but hear me out....

Society is basically designed to be a human meat grinder....it works like this....

As Robert Kiosoki pointed out there's 4 career avenues an adult can get into which are: Employee, Self Employed, Business Owner, Investor. Like take a look at this...

from birth til 5 yrs old. you're too young for much of anything so the babysitting is left to the parents

From 5-18 (or even in to your 20's) you're brainwashed in school.

From that point you're told you have to choose one of the 4 career paths. Most start out as either: Employees or Self Employed.

Employees:

...............Well it's the preferred choice of TPTB. Basically turning you into a human work horse, a slave, without even fully knowing it. You pay the g=v before you get a red cent. That's a slave.

Self Employed:

...............TPTB can't as easily take the money up front. So instead they regulate the industry to death. Doesn't matter what self employed profession you can think of, but there's a licensure association for it. You have to get your license. Therefore they can track you that way, and or control you and earn some revenue from you via the licenses. Plus you're put into the realm of doing your own taxes. if you do them under your own name, without a corporation then they likely will simply audit you once you start making some money and come get it threw that channel.

Business Owner:

.............This is where TPTB want to avoid allowing the average person to get to. But even if you're able to claw your way up to where you own a business(s) without still being self employeed, then basically you're still under the same tax scrutiny as self employeed. But you're a little better off. YOur starting to gravitate toward some financial freedom if you play your cards right. But still their is a lot of hurdles for the average person to get to this point in life, and most will never get this far in life.

Investor:

.............same thing as above. Hard to get to this point in life. But if you do this has a whole other realm of standardized devices designed to rob you of your investment money. There is so many pit falls from the Stock Market which is essencially a big casino which robs the small investor blind as the odds are stacked against them. To most paper assets, etc etc. Most investments are designed to lose you money, not make you anything. And even if you do then again there's the tax department waiting in the shadows to take what you got.

Other factors:

Most people who are married at some point buy a house. Therefore when it comes to audits and other ways to extort the average person having these assets becomes the means to do so. As any assets you have are often fair game. Another factor is most people leave most of there money as 1's and 0's on hard drives at the bank. Also another extremely simple way for the tax department to come and steal whatever they want with you haven't little to no say against it. Most people don't set up corporations and or don't see or understand their importance in protecting you. So they put and do things under their own names. Then when the SHTF they themselves are personally left holding the bag, not the corp, so they're screwed.

Anyway again, society is such a meat grinder. It's only ever gonna get worse and worse. It's no wonder most people go bankrupt a few times in life. Anyway I have to get to bed.

But I'd like to see what you have to say about all this????

Originally posted by spartacus699

Business Owner:

.............This is where TPTB want to avoid allowing the average person to get to. But even if you're able to claw your way up to where you own a business(s) without still being self employeed, then basically you're still under the same tax scrutiny as self employeed. But you're a little better off. YOur starting to gravitate toward some financial freedom if you play your cards right. But still their is a lot of hurdles for the average person to get to this point in life, and most will never get this far in life.

This would be the best path to take. But yes, this is completely what is going on, no question. Luckily, it is in your power to make choices to improve your quality of life - this often does NOT mean conforming to social norms, as those are meant to hold you back from your full potential.

Be creative! :-) Find cheap housing, good friends, cheap entertainment that is re-usable (video games, books, etc.), cook at home, etc.

Giving into peer pressure is part of the whole reason the system works.

Back in the old says when slaves were used, it caused unrest. People didn't like being someone else's slave so they rebelled and caused trouble.

So the system evolved where a reward system was set up for people to work. This made people feel free, motivated and happy.

Then, using the boiled frog technique, slowly over time the rewards were siezed back under the guise of "cost of living", leaving many working in exchange for their basic human rights.

Makes you wonder where the old Egyptian system went, and why our modern system uses depictions of Egyptian gods in its government and corporate logos...

Consider a hundred people on an island. In the beginning, the islanders kind of just mull around, have fun on the beach, put in minor effort to gather food and create shelter. Life is bland, they barely get by, not much structure, lots of arguing among themselves as to who is going to put the duty in to merely get by.

No consider two or three of the islanders take the initiative to create a elders council, the council is voted in, they delegate business ventures with the most business minded of the group. The business fellows organize the others to work 8 hours a day building large living structures, gathering far more food than they did in the past.

Some of the islanders are fond of the arts, they form an art council, make sure that anyone interested in art is carrying out activities with the other islanders. They form schools to teach the young ones what the business and elders have learned.

In a few short years they are more productive, and they have better quality leisure times.

It's not to say that this system can't be abused. But it is to say that a bunch of people sitting around, lazily grabbing food and sticks for shelter, are not nearly as efficient as a society under some kind of guidance.

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But they are free and no one has the right to determine what is productive. i consider productivity how much time you spend with family and meditating in nature and how fast you can get the food and shelter stuff down, and how far you can develop interests and talent.

I consider the rest pure slavery and pure evil.

As to some "hat" determing what is productivity, some bloodline type. Go tell your own bellybutton that stuff, and leave my ears alone thank you, because I don't value their opinions and refuse to be enslaved by any of them.

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What about us drug dealers?

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Society isn't a meat grinder, the universe is a meat grinder.

That's all.

Welcome to human livestock management.

The option to live a free life hasnt been for quite sometime now.

The worst part is that people did it to themselves in the name of security and safety.

By the time that famous quote was written down liberty had been long gone.

Originally posted by Unity_99
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But they are free and no one has the right to determine what is productive. i consider productivity how much time you spend with family and meditating in nature and how fast you can get the food and shelter stuff down, and how far you can develop interests and talent.

I consider the rest pure slavery and pure evil.

As to some "hat" determing what is productivity, some bloodline type. Go tell your own bellybutton that stuff, and leave my ears alone thank you, because I don't value their opinions and refuse to be enslaved by any of them.

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Everyone bitches and complains. Fact is, is the islanders would complain before the system, and they would complain after. But at least in the second scenario they are doing something with themselves.


Yes, there are slave like conditions, but the people who get themselves up to the top also worked slave like conditions to get themselves there.

And as much as people want to bitch about legacy families, it is not as cut and dry as it was a few hundred years ago. It's actually quite hard to keep and/or pass down wealth like it was in the past.

The government takes nearly all of it when you die, and your heirs can piss away half your fortune in a few years with some of the extravagances available today.



Perhaps the banking industry is the only one I have qualms with. You have people creating wealth by simply screwing around with fictitious numbers.

Am I all angsty towards a legacy family who created industry in textiles, shipping, oil, sales-distribution wholesale (or retail), restauranteurs... etc.?

NO.

Why the hell do you feel like slamming people simply because they and their families were business minded and created legacies by running successful companies ??

You all claim the fight for fairness but you would simply write people and their family off because they may have amassed wealth or prosperity for creating and sustaining a business which lasted for a decade or 50 decades.

That seems unfair to me.



It's no wonder the old companies of yesteryear are slowly rapidly disappearing. There was at a time, a company with a 500 year history of making something like hats, or knives, or shoes. But they get swallowed up in corporate buyouts and evaporate. The family legacies evaporate with the companies. And instead a new generation of corporate execs are born instead of people who were ready to carry on a family name and trade.

It's a shame.

And it's the people who buy and bitch that cause it. Who didn't stand up for their small-medium or even large (not massive) businesses.


Just watched a documentary on the sushi trade in Japan.

Interesting to see the companies, families, who had industries like knife making, export, wholesaling, all with histories going back 100 years or more.

They all had one thing to say though... The life of their family's legacy was nearing its end. All their competitors were being bought out, or swallowed up in hostile takeovers. Or they were being undercut by more automated companies.

Kind of sad actually.


I personally try to buy as much handcrafted materials as I can. And I would not bitch seeing anyone high in that company spending their wealth.

Certainly wouldn't blame them for anything either.

Corporations with lobbying and complete disregard for their actions, I can agree with you there, there's a problem. But it's not something where you condemn people simply because they have wealth or long standing businesses.


Even people who are fans of nature, or small towns. Live in those places for a few years and you see a common theme. "Gee willikers there's nothing for us to do!"

Boredom.

Idle hands.

Someone comes in a creates business and/or entertainment venues which in return earns them money... I wouldn't knock that... would you?

Originally posted by resoe26
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What about us drug dealers?

Cant even say the remedy on this though you can write into a paper, but here, no just children, so you know how intensley the shadow government runs those programs and doesnt want people waking up and correcting this major injustice. Earth and all its resources belong to all sovereign people. Basic common law is, thou shalt not harm. We can't invade our neighbors homes and harm them, but they have no right to control us.

No money, no slavery, no forcing, no taking ownership of earth and resources by a tiny fraction of the population, no more problems.

Like the way I look at it is Robert Kiosoki really revealed some amazing info in that one book he wrote called Cash Flow Quadrant. Which is sort of what I'm talking about. But I'm kinda surprised there's not more books on essencialy how to "beat the system". Like I'm not saying doing anything criminal, but I'm saying just knowing the rules of the game. For example one thing I learned the hard way, don't do any business or own any assets personally. Do it all under a corporation. Why? Because if they audit your all there would be to audit would be the corp. then you can dissolve the corp and that would also force the corporate debt to dissolve. But if they tack it onto you personally then you're stuck with it for life and it owuld screw you in so many ways. So that's one example But itwould be neet to find a book that showed how to do like 100s of these types of legal loopholes.Because realistically that's the only wya youll survive if you go into business for yourself is knowing all the loopholes