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posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by terriblyvexed
Wow, thanks for the opinions guys. When I looked in the mirror this morning,I thought to myself "you know you could use a few more gray hairs" I can feel them growing as I read your posts...






posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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You have to go back a few years but remember all the under water cables that were cut? And the US had the only company able to go in and magically fix them?



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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Originally posted by FurvusRexCaeli
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So he's gone from exposing domestic surveillance to exposing foreign intelligence operations. Against the country to which he appears to have defected. Can we stop pretending he's a techno-libertarian hero? He's Phillip Agee for the Bradley Manning generation.


Mmmm, read this

Edward Snowden: how the spy story of the age leaked out

www.guardian.co.uk...



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by JBA2848
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You have to go back a few years but remember all the under water cables that were cut? And the US had the only company able to go in and magically fix them?


This is good point , what US firm repairing those cables? Atlantic-Cable ?



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 05:42 PM
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And China's government has technology in our telcom 'infrastructure'.

Like here:

www.ft.com...

It is easy for China to hack when the West uses their telcom equipment guaranteed backdoor.


qz.com...
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posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 06:07 PM
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Lol,I was only thinking the guy was trying to buy asylum, then I got to reading the posts about using this to pass more laws.

It's a bit disconcerting to say the least.



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 10:32 PM
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And you know the history behind Facebook. CIA funded there start up through InQtel. Well have you ever looked at China's Facebook? It is called Renren. When Facebook went public on the stock market and they all made billions Zuckerberg ran right off to China to celebrate. Well now some info on Renren.

Board of Directors
www.renren-inc.com...

If you read some of the information on them you will see they mostly came from Boston or California.

Management Team
www.renren-inc.com...

Same thing with the management team.

The US works with all these other countries on setting up spy programs.

How about Russia Facebook VK. They have Facebook software in it. Joey software.

developers.facebook.com...



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 11:13 PM
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Originally posted by iamhobo
At first this was all fine and dandy because it painted our government as untrustworthy to our people. Now that other countries are involved, the US (it's citizens) might get back-doored.

Possible scenario: Other countries distrust the US = spies in the states
Spies in the states = increased surveillance.

This could come full circle and completely screw everyone that are in support of him.

*edit: Hell it would screw everyone not in support of him too!

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Good point but the entire reason they have been spying is due to worries of infiltration into the states. It does not make a difference at all if this is again realized - through an altered lense. It still doesn't make it ok to throw all the hay at them and allow them to look for the needle as they have been. It's a waste of our resources. They need to be more creative. Of course we all know the media forms opinions rather than informing of the facts only so who knows - it may very well be in the history books as how the people were too blind to see the obvious. If they continue surveillance of Americans as they have been after this it will be even more suspicious since this is an obsolete idea now.



posted on Jun, 12 2013 @ 11:57 PM
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Originally posted by SubTruth
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Ok......this is weird. Why would he say this?




Is this man a plant? Is this a setup?...........I am really starting to wonder.


Make himself look more attractive to the chinese. More likely they will give him asylum as he has info on the USA's hacking habits.

About time someone with knowledge acknowledged this.

Perhaps the "chinese hacking USA stories" might stop.



posted on Jun, 13 2013 @ 10:29 AM
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Originally posted by xavi1000
Apparently Snowden is still in Hong Kong

This is getting huge , Chinese reaction is expected.Meanwhile deputy CIA director resigned.
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Yes, that is what I got from this story. The most interesting thing to me is this confirms his location I guess? Also, now China might be mad, although they probably already knew this lol.
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posted on Jun, 13 2013 @ 02:24 PM
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Tencent QQ Chinas largest internet provider.
Management Team
www.tencent.com...



LAU, Chi Ping (Martin Lau) President Martin Lau, President of Tencent. Martin joined Tencent in 2005 as the Chief Strategy and Investment Officer and was responsible for corporate strategies, investment, M&A and investor relations. In 2006, Martin was promoted as President of the Company to assist Pony Ma, Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer, in managing the day-to-day operation of the Company. In 2007, Martin was appointed as the Executive Director of the Company. Prior to Tencent, Martin was an Executive Director at Goldman Sachs (Asia) L.L.C's investment banking division and the Chief Operating Officer of its Telecom, Media and Technology Group. Prior to that, Martin worked at Mckinsey & Company, Inc. as a management consultant. Martin received his Bachelor of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering from the University of Michigan, a Master of Science Degree in Electrical Engineering from Stanford University and an MBA Degree from Kellogg Graduate School of Management, Northwestern University.


He worked at Mckinsey & Company, Inc.

Mckinsey & Company, Inc
en.wikipedia.org...




Notable alumni[edit]Main article: List of McKinsey & Company people McKinsey has produced more CEOs than any other company and is referred to by Fortune magazine as "the best CEO launch pad".[74] More than 70 past and present CEOs at Fortune 500 companies are former McKinsey employees. Among McKinsey’s most notable alumni are: Ian Narev, CEO of Commonwealth Bank of Australia Frank Appel, CEO of Deutsche Post DHL Greg Case, CEO of Aon Plc Vittorio Colao, CEO of Vodafone Chelsea Clinton, daughter of former President Bill Clinton Erik Engstrom, CEO of Reed Elsevier Bernard T. Ferrari, Dean of Johns Hopkins University Carey Business School Russell P. Fradin, CEO of SunGard Harvey Golub, former CEO of American Express and former Chairman of American International Group Louis V. Gerstner, Jr., former chairman and CEO of IBM and chairman of The Carlyle Group James P. Gorman, President and CEO of Morgan Stanley Stephen Green, chairman of HSBC Rajat Gupta, former managing director of McKinsey & Company, co-founder of the Indian School of Business, and corporate board member William Hague, UK Foreign Secretary Mohsin Hamid, Author Moth Smoke, The Reluctant Fundamentalist and How to get filthy rich in rising Asia. Bobby Jindal, current Governor of Louisiana Marius Kloppers, CEO of BHP Billiton Anil Kumar, former senior partner of McKinsey & Company and co-founder of the Indian School of Business Jim Manzi, former CEO of Lotus Development Corporation David McCormick, co-CEO of Bridgewater Associates and former Under Secretary for International Affairs within the United States Department of the Treasury James McNerney, chairman and CEO of Boeing Helmut Panke, former chairman and CEO of BMW AG Corrado Passera, Italian Minister of Development and Minister of Infrastructures, ex-CEO of Intesa Sanpaolo Tom Peters, business management writer and co-author of In Search of Excellence Sheryl Sandberg, COO at Facebook Jonathan Schwartz, former CEO of Sun Microsystems Kevin Sharer, CEO of Amgen Jeffrey Skilling, former CEO of Enron Jonathan Spector, CEO of The Conference Board Tidjane Thiam, CEO of Prudential Plc Adair Turner, Chairman of the Financial Services Authority Peter Wuffli, former CEO of UBS AG


You have a whole list of people who would be tied into spying there. Fromm Cintons daughter to the COO of Facebook, And how about ole Bobby Jindal.
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