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Originally posted by jrod
Originally posted by Krazysh0t
reply to post by xuenchen
Before you start jumping the gun, people in the military technically don't have freedom of speech. The president is your commander in chief and you aren't allowed to talk bad about him. This is all under UCMJ law.
That's not quite true. In the military you must obey lawful orders. Not being allowed to talk bad about a superior is NOT a lawful order.
I've talked to military commanders and in a private setting they have no fear in saying they do not like Obama, that he is a poor Commander in Chief, among other things.
Petraeus went down because he was not loyal to Obama, the affair was just the reason to fire him. No doubt he was being spied on.
Originally posted by neo96
Did the article not say troops/veterans returning from Afghanistan?
Why yes it did which doesn't mean they are still in the service given the fact the FBI,secret Service, and locals 'arrested' the guy it is a CIVIL matter.
Meaning UMCJ does not apply that also means he does have his 1st amendment rights,
edit on 12-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
Without a warrant or recitation of his Miranda rights, Raub was handcuffed and taken into custody. After a quick hearing, government officials confirmed that Raub’s Facebook posts necessitated his detention, refusing to acknowledge legal objections that the words were wrongly interpreted. The former Marine will undergo 30 days of evaluation at Salem VA Medical Center. Read more: communities.washingtontimes.com... Follow us: @wtcommunities on Twitter
Former Marine.edit on 12-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)
"Sharpen my axe; I'm here to sever heads."
Police – acting under a state law that allows emergency, temporary psychiatric commitments upon the recommendation of a mental health professional – took Raub to the John Randolph Medical Center in Hopewell. He was not charged with any crime.
Not being allowed to talk bad about a superior is NOT a lawful order.