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reply posted on 28-11-2004 @ 05:15 PM by just_a_pilot
Well, back from Destin Florida. Great vacation. Even saw an F-22 take off from Eglin A.F.B. with three F-15's in the four ship. Cool looking plane.

Anyway. This thread appears to have strayed from the navigational beacons.

Congratulations India. Fine job on landing a helo on such a high slope.

Now, to think that India and/or China could take on the U.S. and win is just plain absurd. 10,000,000,000 Indians and Chinamen can't be wrong can they? YES they can. The size of that army would ONLY matter if it were on U.S. borders. Since that won't happen we don't need to debate it.

As for India catching up to the U.S. in tech...... mmmmm kinda sorta. Infrastructure? Not in my lifetime. Inovation? You bet they can. Smarts, knowledge and know how? Ohhhh yep. You can thank the U.S. for that. We hire them after all. H1b visa anyone? Have a BUNCH of Indian nationals working for me. Some of the best and brightest programmers I know. Plus they are NOT lazy. No 9 to 5 for them. They work their A**** off.

Putting a man on the moon? Yes India or China could. But why? What is to gain? NOTHING. With today's personal computers you could do it. It is just math and geometry. Hell, Apollo astronauts figured out how to dock and escape orbit in Willeys Jeeps. They don't just aim for the moon and go. Shoot something straight up 400 miles and it will come straight back down. Orbit, orbit, orbit. Earth and the moon are used as big slingshots.

Again Congrats India. Job well done.


Yeah, we could break it if it meant the Collier Trophy.


reply posted on 29-11-2004 @ 01:14 AM by aryaputhra
engineer:But if I was going to pick anyone to rescue me from a mountaintop, it would be India...


Well now will be a good time to explain the IAF's mountain rescue capabilities...

In 1993, a case came to light where an article in a French and British mountaineering magazine lauded the heroic rescue of the author, a mountaineer and his friend, who had broken his spine during a fall while mountaineering in India. They were marooned on a narrow ledge but managed to get an SOS out on their HF radio set. An IAF Cheetah helicopter from AF station Bareilly responded, when the weather was really bad. There was just enough place to hover with one ski on the ledge (and the other still in air), in gusty and white-out conditions - but they got the casualties on board and got them to Bareilly. On being summoned by the Chief of Air Staff and asked why they had not reported such a feat (after the IAF Air-Attache in France reported the article, more than a year later) the captain pilot confessed that as they were operating well below minima, they didn’t want to be rapped on the knuckles for it and so wisely kept their mouths shut! However, the grateful mountaineer subsequently recounted the entire incident in a French magazine, and said QUOTE “I could not believe my eyes to see a helicopter come to our rescue in such impossible conditions. No other air force in the world could be expected to perform such difficult mission” UnQUOTE. The IAF later awarded a Vayu Sena Medal to the pilots. I saw the pictures taken by the mountaineers during rescue and they are hair rising to say the least; One Cheetah ski on the ledge and other in the air, the whirling rotor just a foot away from the solid mountain cliff.

This is not an isolated case, but IAF and its men do go above and beyond the call of duty and the realm of possibility with guts and glory.

One must realize that India is a country of limited means and so are its Defense forces but they do a magnificent job with what they have.Yet we understand that IAF is not a district "fire department service" whose mandate is to respond to every incidence of civilan accident (however unfortunate it may be).

Comparing “The quick and generous response of the British and French authorities” which BTW is mandated role of coastguard to IAF’s responding to civilian authorities call for help in a far more dangerous and in a non-mandatory organizational responsibility is totally uncalled for , unjustified and irrational.

And here's another rescue from the IAF.

Saviour Cheetah clocks new record

Oh, i guess we should go back to 'feeding' ourselves than saving lives.


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