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"While no reason is apparent why the Allies-- in contrast to their treatment of Germany-- are softening their attitude toward Japan, our position is different from Germany in that [ as you say] we have no objection to the restoration of world peace on the basis of the Charter (Atlantic Charter)."
"5. In your 12 July message [DS 13 Jul 45] you merely informed me of Japan's desire to send a Special Envoy [to Moscow]; then, in a message dated 21 July, you instructed me to seek the good offices of the Russian Government [DS 22 Jul 45]; now in your 25 July message, I am to make clear that the purpose of sending a Special Envoy is to induce Stalin to become a peace advocate."
.. although with the urgency of the war situation our time to proceed with arrangements for ending the war before the enemy lands on the Japanese mainland is limited ( If they only knew, I suppose.), on the other hand it is difficult to decide on concrete peace conditions here at home all at once. At present, in accordance with the Imperial Will, there is a unanimous determination to seek the food offices of the Russians in ending the war, to make concrete terms a matter between Japan and Russia, and to send Prince Konoye, who has the deep trust of the Emperor, to carry on discussions with the Russians... It has been decided at any rate to send a Special Envoy in accordance with the views of the highest leaders of [this] Government,"
Document 29: "Magic" (Worth the read.)– Diplomatic Summary, War Department, Office of Assistant Chief of Staff, G-2, No. 1204 – July 12, 1945, Top Secret Ultra
Source: Record Group 457, Records of the National Security Agency/Central Security Service, "Magic" Diplomatic Summaries 1942-1945, box 18
Since September 1940, under the cover name "Magic," U.S. military intelligence had been routinely decrypting the intercepted cable traffic of the Japanese Foreign Ministry. The National Security Agency kept the 'Magic" diplomatic and military summaries classified for many years and did not release the series for 1942 through August 1945 in its entirety until the early 1990s. Not knowing that the Soviets had already made a commitment to its Allies to declare war on Japan, Tokyo fruitlessly pursued this option for several weeks. The "Magic" intercepts from mid-July have figured in Gar Alperovitz's argument that Truman and his advisers recognized that the emperor was ready to capitulate if the Allies showed more flexibility on the demand for unconditional surrender. This point is central to Alperovitz's thesis that
Originally posted by Malynn
Originally posted by coolcatt
Its seem like the world has turned on it head russia trying to be the good guy and the U.S.A trying to lock everybody down with power.
I've been thinking about this for a long time actually. I'm not saying Putin is a "good guy" because our planet is very much like Game of Thrones. There are no good guys, and if there are they get beheaded...er neutralized or whatever. But....for the last decade or so it's seemed like the US and Russia are switching sides. Since the fall of the Soviet Union the Russians have spent a lot of time hunkered down trying to deal with problems within their own borders. Every once in awhile they pull their heads out of what they're doing and pipe up when the US is doing something particularly Imperial Federation-ish.
I don't think Stalin would have used a nuke either. There wasn't any kind of good reason to do so. The only reason the US used it was to show Russia how big our wang was. The war was all but over and the US knew it and so did the Japanese. The US government of that time were the retards that came up with "brinkmanship" and mutually assured destruction. Truman was a racist, and a monster.
Originally posted by emberscott
In ending, it does appear the Japanese not only intended to surrender prior to the atomic bombings
Originally posted by hellobruce
Typical "blame the USA for everything whilst I rewrite history nonsense"
Originally posted by coolcatt
reply to post by Pervius
i didn't start this post so people could start bashing the U.S