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Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
For a guy who mentored black kids, he certainly didn't seem to have much ability in communicating with the one he decided was a problem kid on the 26th Feb, 2012.
Now you are being petty. I guess if some guy half a foot taller than you stepped out and asked if you had a problem, and you said no, and he punched you, you would handle it so much better?
Plus, stop the blowing smoke. Zimmerman didn't "decide" anyone was a "problem kid"; he reported suspicious behavior to the police, because of burglaries. Someone 6-foot plus doens't look like a "kid", either. You have nothing.
Originally posted by riffraff
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
WRONG. Martin's comment was very racist. "Unfortunate"? Why, because it's known he said it, and that messes up the angelic picture so many tried to paint of this guy? He clearly was the racist they wanted to make believe that Zimmerman was. Zimmerman isn't one. Martin was. His comment was of the same order as a white person using the "n" word. His use of the "c" word is no more excusable. The fact that so many seem to think one word isn't even acceptable to print, and the other is, also shows racism, from one side of the issue. Equal means equal, not one side receiving special treatment.
Martin wasn't shot because of hos color, or because he "infringed on" any "etiquette expected of him"; he was shot because he circled back and attacked a man for walking in his own neighborhood, and reporting suspicious activity to the police. His actions, following his comment, show real racism.
There is NO evidence that Zimmerman is racist, and plenty to show that he is NOT. He mentored black kids, and defended a black homeless man who was beaten by police. His own genetics are mixed, also. Claiming that he "might be" racist is nothing but blowing smoke.
Where do you get that martin's statement wasn't racist? How can you state that people claim "blacks" are "somehow" the racists. People are talking about THAT person - Martin - not an entire race. His comment, revealed by a witness AGAINST Zimmerman, shows his real racism. There is no excuse for that from anyone, of any color. It isn't lessened based on the color of the person demonstrating it. Who is playing games here again? Who has a project? Seems clear to me.
THIS!!! Just this!! This is the single most intelligent,lucid comment so far in 38 pages. It is said so perfectly I wish I had the clarity to express so eloquently. This statement is nearly flawless. ....nearly.
But ladygreeneyes, I'm afraid you forgot one scientifically proven and culturally accepted fact: Black people CAN'T be racist. It is genetically embedded on their DNA. Their genome lacks the 'racist' chromosome (I think it's on the 18th pair).
Originally posted by roadgravel
It appears to me that the media has done what it can to make the public believe Zim is a bad guy and is guilty. So much to unbiased reporting of the news.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
He was 5ft 11" - it's right there in the autopsy report. Stop trying to make out that Trayvon was threatening-looking to George, especially when the guy has a gun on him and has been training for such encounters for the previous 18mth.
Originally posted by FraggleRock
Originally posted by DZAG Wright
At least TWO witnesses are saying they watched the fight. They couldn't see the features of the combatants, but they could see the fight. None of them has said they saw any head bashing. The one woman while on the call with 911 was horrified that George shot the kid. WHY was she not relieved that he did it as his life was in danger?
They saw parts of a physical confrontation in which they couldn't identify anything. The witness from the 911 recording didn't see the confrontation, she heard it take place outside her residence. She said neither she nor her husband looked out the window during the incident, fearing they may get hurt. Her response regarding the shooting of Trayvon was from seeing the aftermath of what took place.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
@ ladygreeneyes
Trayvon had no fight injuries because George was trying to detain him, not beat the crap out of him, which he could probably have done easily had he made the slightest effort. Or, he'd wasted $1800 of training fees and the people who hired him as a bouncer had made a serious error in judgement.
People who get jobs as bouncers are not afraid of confrontation and tend to be more ready for a fight than your average person. They also tend to have better ability in restraining techniques than your average person, although it can be made more difficult if you have an awkward, resisting person in your grasp. You might even catch a punch on the nose, but that would just tend to anger most bouncers, especially if it was off a skinny teenager.
If you want a link, google "Selma Mora testimony" I sat through it to get a full feel of her testimony, and so should you.
Nothing sloppy about the investigation? If you think that, you obviously haven't looked into this case as carefully as you should have. Straight off the bat you have a crime scene tech who didn't even do the procedural tests for blood traces around where George claims he got his head bashed against the pavement and where the cuts on his head should obviously have left evidence. If she'd done a basic Luminol test, she could have clearly established there was no evidence of blood where George said his head injuries were caused.edit on 28-6-2013 by IvanAstikov because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
He sucker punched Zimmerman, knocking him down, then pinned him and kept attacking.
Originally posted by luciddream
*snip*
Zimmerman's defense went out the window when police told him to stop following him, and he did anyway.
*snip*
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Originally posted by roadgravel
It appears to me that the media has done what it can to make the public believe Zim is a bad guy and is guilty. So much to unbiased reporting of the news.
The media wouldn't have a circus to report on if Florida didn't have self-defence laws that were wide open to abuse by unscrupulous persons.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Stop trying to make out that Trayvon was threatening-looking to George, especially when the guy has a gun on him and has been training for such encounters for the previous 18mth.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
But, the only evidence for that is Zimmerman's say-so. No witness can confirm it. The injuries really don't match up to what would be expected from a single head slam against a concrete surface, nevermind several. And, now the jury's also expected to believe that after $1600 spent at a top self-defence gym, he couldn't even defend a mount against a 30lb+ lighter opponent, without having to rely on his gun, which conveniently for him, his atttacker supposedly reminded him he was carrying.
Originally posted by IvanAstikov
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
He sucker punched Zimmerman, knocking him down, then pinned him and kept attacking.
Without referring to George's self-serving testimony, provide YOUR evidence for these claims, and I'll consider treating your demands for links and copypasta more seriously.edit on 28-6-2013 by IvanAstikov because: (no reason given)