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The Zimmerman Trial

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posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by Phoenix267
Does he go to jail if he gets manslaughter?

If he gets manslaughter then he goes to jail for the same length of time as Murder 2. (basically)




posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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Yeah he would go and likely get 20 to 30 years, HOWEVER with the garbage surrounding this trial and the biased judge, and the fact Zimmerman is obviously innocent it WILL be overturned later.

It would be sick if he goes to prison to appease idiots that threatened to riot.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
Max of 15 years for manslaughter.

The TV talking heads said that in Florida, manslaughter is 10-30 years.
There is additional time for using a gun ...



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:14 PM
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I doubt it.

No way he just Walks. MHO.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:15 PM
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Speculation and conjecture !



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:15 PM
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You cannot make that assumption. You really don't know where the jurors are coming from with their question. One thing is for sure: The lawyers asked for a recess before they agree on a response to the question.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:16 PM
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Thanks for answering my question everyone. To be honest I feel George Zimmerman will be found guilty in away the people who dislike him won't like and the people who support his defense will be a little upset, but will calm down quickly. I hate how trials have become this media circus crazed.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by sonnny1
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I doubt it.

No way he just Walks. MHO.


I was wrong. Maximum of 15 years in prison; maximum of 30 years in prison if a firearm is used plus a mandatory minimum of 25 years in Florida.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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Please cite your sources - Are those instructions for the State of Florida - for sure? I would like to be positive on that - Florida rules on this are extremely complex...............thank you -


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posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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To prove the crime of Manslaughter, the State must prove the following two elements beyond a reasonable doubt: (Victim) is dead.

Give 2a, 2b, or 2c depending upon allegations and proof. 2. a. (Defendant) intentionally caused the death of (victim).

2. b. (Defendant) intentionally procured the death of (victim).

2. c. The death of (victim) was caused by the culpable negligence of (defendant).

However, the defendant cannot be guilty of manslaughter if the killing was either justifiable or excusable homicide as I have previously explained those terms.


www.arnoldlawfirmllc.com...


They didn't prove he did it intentionally.

Peace
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posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by Phoenix267
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Does he go to jail if he gets manslaughter?
I'm curious what would happen. This isn't your typical Casey Anthony trial. This can blow up either way.


Max of 15 years for manslaughter.

He could walk.


But Florida has to 10-20 to life gun law.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:19 PM
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This trial is worse then OJ Simpson's.


Meh.....



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:20 PM
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I don't think that indicates it. Just that they what to know what manslaughter means to see if it applies. Seems like they should aready have that info. Omara should have been clear that manslaughter doesn't apply in this case.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:20 PM
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You are oblivious to the circumstances surrounding the appeals process. It is very difficult to overcome a guilty verdict as an adjudged guilty individual. You file several appeals, they must go through the state system first. If denied throughout that process then they can petition the Federal courts for habeas corpus.

Your chances, once convicted...??? Slim to none



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:21 PM
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That wasn't O'Mara's job. That duty belonged to the judge. And they were instructed by the Judge that manslaughter is included.
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posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by GrantedBail

Your chances, once convicted...??? Slim to none


I agree.

You need next to DNA evidence, for freedom. Just look at those poor folks who stay in Jail for years, and are innocent.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by GogoVicMorrow
Omara should have been clear that manslaughter doesn't apply in this case.

O'Mara was VERY clear. His charts in closing were VERY clear. THey were excellent charts. Obviously there are at least a few of the jurors who are voting emotional rather than how the law works. If there is even a smidgen of 'reasonable doubt', then they have to vote 'not guilty'.

Originally ... 3 weeks ago ... I was thinking Manslaughter would be appropriate.
After the trial .... I switched to not guilty.
The reason ... we do not know who started the fight.
If we knew that, then we'd know if it was self defense for Zimmerman or if he was attacking.

I am of the opinion that it has to be 'not guilty' unless we can figure out who did the attacking.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:24 PM
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It could be, and I am not stating a fact, just a speculation: The jury has disregarded any self-defense, defense.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:25 PM
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We'll that's just complete garbage and not true. If he is convicted of manslaughter he won't serve more tha a year. He will appeal immediately, and all of the info about the doj and shady politics going on will get him out. Especially when angela corey falsifying the arrest warrant gets into the ews more. He will be acquitted faster than anyone you have ever seen. Personally I find it hard to believe all 6 are agreeing on manslaughter, it is most likely to clarify to just a few members. Trust me I kow how the appeal process works. Their question could mean a lot.

I still think acquittal or hung jury.



posted on Jul, 13 2013 @ 05:26 PM
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So the question is ... why did it take them 11 hours to ask what Manslaughter is???
You'd think that they'd figure out what Murder and Manslaughter were before they
started talking. At least ... that's what I'd think ....




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