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The Zimmerman Trial

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posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:15 PM
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If it's hung does that mean there's another trial?




posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:16 PM
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50 protesters outside the courthouse ... so far.

Orlando Sentinel

About 50 people — not including the media — are gathered calmly outside the Seminole County criminal courthouse now, awaiting the verdict in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder trial.

Sign wavers and others have gathered peacefully near a fountain outside of the courthouse in an area designated for people to express themselves.

The gathering was mostly subdued until someone with a megaphone showed up. Officials told Chimurenga Waller with the International People's Democratic Uhuru Movement to stop using it, which he did


Greta Van Sustern is reporting on FOX. She says it's worrisome.



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by suz62
If it's hung does that mean there's another trial?

Hung jury means another trial. Sometimes the state will let it go and not bother.
But not with this one. They'll have to take it to the end. The MSM hype made sure of that.



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:17 PM
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But at least one of them thinks he is guilty and at least one of them thinks he isn't.


If somebody thinks he is guilty, it isn't based on facts. Emotions based is more likely or they lied to get on the jury to find him guilty. The prosecution offered nothing. I mean nothing.

Peace



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by suz62
reply to post by FlyersFan
 


If it's hung does that mean there's another trial?


Wiki Linkage

In the United States, the result is a mistrial, and the case may be retried. Some jurisdictions permit the court to give the jury a so-called Allen charge, inviting the dissenting jurors to re-examine their opinions, as a last-ditch effort to prevent the jury from hanging. The Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure state, "The verdict must be unanimous.. ... ...If the jury cannot agree on all counts as to any defendant, the jury may return a verdict on those counts on which it has agreed...If the jury cannot agree on a verdict on one or more counts, the court may declare a mistrial on those counts. A hung jury does not imply either the defendant's guilt or innocence. The government may retry any defendant on any count on which the jury could not agree."[7]



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:20 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
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But at least one of them thinks he is guilty and at least one of them thinks he isn't.


If somebody thinks he is guilty, it isn't based on facts. Emotions based is more likely or they lied to get on the jury to find him guilty. The prosecution offered nothing. I mean nothing.

Peace


Exactly, which seeing a list of the evidence (by the defense-since they are the only ones who brought any) may mean that emotional juroror needed to SEE something for herself...



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
that emotional juroror needed to SEE something for herself...


I think you nailed that .... the live feed today had reports from inside the courtroom about the jurors and their reactions. ONE of them was described as emotional at times and even had a tear roll down her cheek when the prosecution rebuttal was going on .... (all that 'scared little child in the dark' crap ... it got to her .. that's when she had her tear )



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by OneisOne
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It was E6 that took all the notes and was noted as being "serious".

I only remember because she was the only one with a single digit.


Darn! That was my first pick (just like in test always go with the first pick)


Ok, that really does make sense. But, I do believe they said that there were, "two note takers in the back row.."

Thanks OneisOne



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by ButterCookie
that emotional juroror needed to SEE something for herself...


I think you nailed that .... the live feed today had reports from inside the courtroom about the jurors and their reactions. ONE of them was described as emotional at times and even had a tear roll down her cheek when the prosecution rebuttal was going on .... (all that 'scared little child in the dark' crap ... it got to her .. that's when she had her tear )



Uh oh.. that's not good.
Let's hope she uses common sense because the prosecutions whole close statement was garbage. He tried to say it was impossible for someone to get to their gun with someone on top of them. How absurd is that. Last night on HLN they were reenacting it and when the guy started the head slamming he had to lift his leg like he was propping it up on a stool and that was the ah ha moment that explained it all. Too bad the jury didn't see it.



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:28 PM
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I always take notes when I am on a jury. Funny thing is I never use them to reach a verdict. Guess it was a way for me to stay awake and alert.

Peace



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:35 PM
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With all the info getting out there now, I don't think they would be able to have another trial. Defense could claim tainted jury anywhere in the country. Unless maybe amish country or something, but then it would not be a jury of his peers by any stretch.

With all the evidence out there about all the political pressure and such, I think trying to make him go on trial again would be a huge mistake as well.
edit on Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:38:47 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by TKDRL
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With all the info getting out there now, I don't think they would be able to have another trial. Defense could claim tainted jury anywhere in the country. Unless maybe amish country or something, but then it would not be a jury of his peers by any stretch.

edit on Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:38:47 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)

No doubt there would be a fight between the Defence and prosecution to see who would be the first get a Mug shot of either Trayvon or George with one of them Crazy Beards...now that's a ID parade i would love to see..

edit on 12-7-2013 by Soloprotocol because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:42 PM
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With all the info getting out there now, I don't think they would be able to have another trial. Defense could claim tainted jury anywhere in the country. Unless maybe amish country or something, but then it would not be a jury of his peers by any stretch.




Remember July 18th Jodie Arias starts again "with a new jury", everybody knows about that (almost)

"The judge scheduled a retrial for July 18. A new panel likely will be seated to try again to reach a decision on a sentence — unless the prosecutor takes death off the table agrees to a life sentence.'


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posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:48 PM
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Doesn't make it any less wrong, just because it happens. It shouldn't be allowed to happen. Tape all these circus trials, but do not release any footage, and no evidence, until the conclusion of the trial, or trials. That is how it really should be.

Then again, if it happened that way, there would be no circus trials in the fist place I suppose......
edit on Fri, 12 Jul 2013 16:50:00 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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if he is found not guilty i hope people can live with it and not riot. if he is convicted there will be another trial, but i'm sure all the pro zimmerman not guilty crowd on here will be rioting in their living rooms possibly throwing their computers through windows LMAO!!!!!!!
but i digress, zimmerman should be charged with manslaughter in my opinion, his story is full of holes, based on that alone his version of events should be thrown out the window. if he lied about parts of his story what else did he lie about?



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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Judge just said that she will inform the jury on how long they want to deliberate tonight. could be as early as 6 or as late as 12.

who knows...



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:50 PM
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Yeah, I am gonna tear up my house, and toss my most precious posession out the window for sure! That will show them!



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:53 PM
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There is NO reason whatsoever he should be charged with manslaughter.
It was self defense.

If he is convicted people SHOULD be furious because that means he was judged based on emotion and not evidence. That means any of us could be locked up after defending ourselves because the media and politicians stir the pot. This only came about because the media said it was a race thing.. IT WASN'T.

I think there will be a few acts of violence related to the case no matter how it turns out. People that would riot always want a reason to riot. So if he is convicted there will be celebratory gatherings by the idiots that think he's guilty and some violence will spring up. If he is set free there will be outrage and the same.



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:54 PM
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No matter what the verdict is the staff will adhere to the T&C. This will be across all topics on this. Basically..... adhere to the T&C. Decorum.



posted on Jul, 12 2013 @ 04:55 PM
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