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The Zimmerman Trial

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posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:36 PM
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This guy would make a great conspiracy theorist. I wonder if he hangs here on his offtime.
Scratch that, the theories here usually have supporting evidence.
edit on Thu, 11 Jul 2013 13:38:04 -0500 by TKDRL because: (no reason given)




posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:37 PM
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i bet the defense is taking notes on a point by point basis of what the state is saying and going to refute them one by one either with facts or calling out them on trying to use emotion not evidence to sway the jury in the attempt to rail road this guy,also id see defense also bringing up edited tapes in its closing to show how it had been spun to make zimmerman appear racist when he was not speaking in that manner .say what you want about lawyers but the defense laywer is smart and a SHARK he speaks slowly and carefully and as rarely if ever even tried to use emotion as an argument.


in relation to the live stream now the state sounds like a bumbling fool



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by JuniorDisco

Originally posted by TKDRL
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Yeah, and almost all of the murders happen in those gun free cities!

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Sorry but he is right. Most murders hapen in the highest controlled areas. look it up, internet search is your friend.
edit on Thu Jul 11 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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Prosecution ..... "Remember what Osterman said ... "

(he's the fella who wrote the book on what Zimmerman said ... but then in cross examination he admitted that he wrote the book based on one conversation with Zimmerman and that he didn't take any notes on the conversation and he admitted that he probably got things wrong).

Why quote someone as stating facts when that person themselves even said they got it wrong?

( How does this guy live with himself??? )



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:38 PM
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I think acting was the prosecutors fallback career option...

How can you choke up like that... while being misleading, and out-right lying? ... unless you're an actor. they can summon tears like I used to summon pokemon when I was a kid.

this is definitely a career move by the prosecution team. No more, no less.
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posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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On my times on the jury, the closing arguments hardly played a role in our decision. We focused on the evidence or lack thereof to come up with a verdict.

Peace



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:39 PM
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posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:40 PM
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As it should be. These days closings are no more than grandstanding...... Not sure why they even have them in the first place, it's not like the jury don't take notes.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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The prosecuter is doin a great job creating reasonable doubt, hes not doin this closure very good.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:41 PM
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Originally posted by jam321
On my times on the jury, the closing arguments hardly played a role in our decision. We focused on the evidence or lack thereof to come up with a verdict.


I would hope that if I were ever on trial for something , that people would look at facts and not at emotions. I would hope. My gosh .. I can't believe that someones life is in the hands of people who are supposed to be upholding the law but instead are just pumping out emotional rhetoric.

I hope I never have to count on a jury for my future.

People can get easily swayed by emotion rather than facts.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:44 PM
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how in any universe is how many flashlights he had relevant to a murder trial? are flashlights criminal items now? this part of his closing is making no sense to me can any one clear this up cuz if im wrong id like to know but i dont see how a flashlight is relevant in this case



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:45 PM
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posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:46 PM
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Originally posted by Minus
The prosecuter is doin a great job creating reasonable doubt, hes not doin this closure very good.

I noticed that too. Can't they have that dummy they used earlier in the trial make the closing argument? At least that would be 20% cooler.'



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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Note from the running blog that I"m watching ... the court reporters are saying that it seems the prosecutor is trying to make people doubt Zimmermans story rather than create 'reasonable doubt' about the shooting itself and the murder 2 charge.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:47 PM
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If a person have more than 1 flashlight hes guilty in many things - rofl

This closing makes no sense i agree - the prosecutor is doin the defense a great favor here, they are creating reasonable doubt.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:49 PM
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So these 4 flashlights I have at home... are considered contraband now?

Erm... I shouldn't of said I had that many on a public forum...

crap...



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:50 PM
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Prosecutor: Where is the blood on Martin's hands?

Well, we would never know since the Medical Examiner didn't take any PICTURES, remember?

In fact the ME admits that the body wasn't handled properly anyway!



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by j.r.c.b.

Originally posted by TKDRL
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Why would you expect that Martins DNA would be everywhere? They were not having sex, and last I checked it was Zimmerman bleeding.......
the 30 punch lie made up by z. Really, no DNA on trayvons hands......so, hhmmmm, really how did z really get those little bumps.....also a lie by z saying Trayvon was reaching or his holster, really, none of trayvons DNA on that holster......lies by z.....last I checked, Trayvon was bleeding from a gunshot wound while unjustly attacked/followed, then he died....of which zimmerman shows no remorse and states, it's gods will.....


I don't see why it's so hard to understand that Trayvon's DNA wouldn't be on the holster if he just reached for it (or even if he touched it).

I just reached for you, I didn't touch you, but I reached for you. Is my DNA on you?
No.

If you reach and touch something briefly the odds of your DNA being on it are not very high. It's trace DNA so unless you have a ton of skin oil on your hands you likely won't leave any DNA.



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Minus
This closing makes no sense i agree - the prosecutor is doin the defense a great favor here, they are creating reasonable doubt.


This closing is strange. He's quoting discredited witnesses. He's rambling and saying 'you decide'.
He's giving alternative theories. REASONABLE DOUBT is what he's giving. Instead of giving
a solid credible story line .. he's giving bunches ...



posted on Jul, 11 2013 @ 01:51 PM
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ah so these are the high capacity flashlights bloomberg has been warning america about..... on a more serious note even my completly pro martin frends that are watching this are depressed at this guys closing. how long can the state talk i mean is there like a limit or is it until he is done? in answer to where the blood went? well the coroners reprot says the blood went into his(travons) lungs,which could also make it hard to scream




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